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Re: Warranty Worries? [graphicguy] by duke23
Dec 10, 2008 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 10, 2008 8:18 am)

gg wrote:
"I was thinking last night about how some of the long time posters here seem to have become friends. Yeah, we fight every once in a while. But, overall I can say that all of you have made tough times just a little easier to bare. "
Yes sir, we agree to disagree. Not that there's any ego's involved here. Some thoughts on the bailout. Believing in laissez - faire it's been difficult to endorse a bail out but having been forced to grasp the big picture, a few items that our lawyer congressmen may fail to grasp.
1) Unemployment benefits by and large won't be recoverable from a tax aspect.
2) In that the dealerships and fmc and gmac have sold their loans forward into cdo's and securitized them, we fail face credit crunch II and call into doubt the insurance companies that have guaranteed them adding insult to injury to insult x 10 .
3) The psychological impact of 2.5 -3 million added to the unemployment rolls if we add in thge parts makers/ suppliers/distributors that
 will cost us up the wazoo and be cost ineffective.
4) The Chinese take over manufacture of our auto parts, write in personal fear here.
 
To those that think bankrupting the auto's will solve the UAW. How well has it worked for the airlines? It's a fine mess you've gotten me into Ollie.
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Re: Warranty Worries? [duke23] by duke23
Dec 10, 2008 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: duke23 (Dec 10, 2008 9:02 pm)

30 minute window. Read we will fail to face into previous, point two.
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Late Night with Conan O'Brian by driver100
Dec 11, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Some senate leaders say a bailout deal for automakers is close. They say it's taking so long because every time they almost get a deal, the car executives say, "I'll have to go and check with my manager".
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The Shining by michaell
Dec 11, 2008 (7:11 am)
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The hotel in the movie is the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, CO.
 
Originally opened by the Stanley brothers (of Stanley Steamer fame), there is a Steamer in the lobby. Rooms are decent, if a tad on the small side.
 
Until the late 70's or early 80's, the hotel was only open in the summer, which meant a caretaker was responsible in the winter months. I can't remember which room Steven King stayed in when he wrote the story, but it's noted in the literature.
 
All in all, a very cool place to visit if you're ever in this part of the country.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test dr [graphicguy] by isellhondas
Dec 11, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 10, 2008 3:21 pm)

An "insider" told me that after the 1st of the year there will be bargains like we can't believe on cruises.
 
We've been on 8 or 9 and for the money spent there is no greater value to be had anywhere.
 
They have to fill those cabins and the prices will be jaw dropping. They only hope the bars, casinos, side tours and other offerings will cause them to break even.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test dr [isellhondas] by graphicguy
Dec 11, 2008 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 11, 2008 7:31 am)

isell....the "discounts" on cruises wouldn't surprise me. I'm not the veteran cruiser you are (only done 4 of them). Except for my first "virgin" cruise, where I thought I had to go to every presentation (got caught up in buying some stuff I either no longer have, nor want).
 
Once I learned my lesson on that count, they've all been bargains. Letting a cruise ship sit idle can't be cheap. Letting one cruise half full can't be cheap either.
 
As I look back, I never had anything less than a grand time on a cruise. I could have picked them better (went on a Holland America ship, for a first cruise, where I believe I was among the youngest on board), but still had a grad time on each and every one of them.
 
After you get tired of all the ATV-ing trips, horseback trips, snorkeling trips, diving trips, parasailing trips, etc, I found just getting off the ship while docked and exploring on my own (which costs nothing) was the best time to be had.
 
Food is always good (and abundant). Entertainment ranges from fun, to "so what", but the price is right. Meeting interesting people is usually the highlight, though (again, that's free).
 
I think I'm talking myself into another one.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test dr [graphicguy] by isellhondas
Dec 11, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 11, 2008 7:57 am)

We enjoy the art auctions although we've never bought anything. It seems like I always buy a watch and some duty free booze.
 
The side excursions can be expensive. I agree with you on simply exploring the town on our own.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test dr [isellhondas] by richard64
Dec 11, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 11, 2008 8:33 am)

I agree with you and gg. Exploring on your own and meeting new people is fun---and free. We've only had one bad cruise. We took one during spring break for colleges...didn't know it. The drunk college students drove us crazy at night. We won't do that again. The food is out of this world on the cruise ships, and we enjoy the casinos with our little hundred dollar limit per day. We usually win a little and lose a little, so it comes out about even---if you hold to your daily limit.
 
Richard
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [driver100] by joel0622
Dec 11, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 11, 2008 6:29 am)

Some senate leaders say a bailout deal for automakers is close. They say it's taking so long because every time they almost get a deal, the car executives say, "I'll have to go and check with my manager".
 
I just shared that with about 10 of the sales guys here and they are still laughing at it.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [joel0622] by imidazol97
Dec 11, 2008 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Dec 11, 2008 11:18 am)

>sales guys here and they are still laughing at it.
 
It's good to hear there is some levity in a dealership. I pictured it as being fairly grim because of the uncertainty of the bailout and slow traffic.

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