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Re: I had to laugh... [joel0622] by richard64
Dec 09, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Dec 08, 2008 4:24 pm)

"...it would just be over the phone."
 
I should have known that you guys had a way to keep us from escaping.
 
Richard
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Re: I had to laugh... [richard64] by graphicguy
Dec 09, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Dec 09, 2008 7:25 am)

richard...not meaning to speak for joel, but employee pricing is better than "X plan"...generally.
 
I know Ford is offering employee pricing on everything right now. So, it may be a moot point regarding x-plan.
 
While not Ford, I've seen some newspaper ads around here from GM dealers. They're actually offering employee pricing, giving rebates to the customer....AND, offering more money off in addition to all of that.
 
Might be worth "testing the waters" a little bit to see how low dealerships will go, below employee pricing.
 
I know the only caveats I've heard on Ford's employee pricing is that it doesn't include the '09 F-150s. Best I can tell, everything else is fair game (with the possible exception of "special edition" Mustangs).
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [driver100] by jmonroe
Dec 09, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 09, 2008 5:10 am)

As soon as they show the movie with all the smiling people walking on the beach and playing golf all day, you just have to tell yourself you are watching paid actors or very well edited video.
 
It sounds like this is coming from a guy who has sat through a presentation or two.
 
I did this ONCE myself back in the early 70’s with a hand full of fellow employees when we were provided a weekend at a ski lodge down the PA Turnpike from where we live to watch a spiel given by our company’s real estate division. I don’t ski but a few of them did. I didn’t want to go but they talked me into it. Especially after their wives called Mrs. jmonroe and wanted to know why I was such a party pooper. She didn’t even know about the offer until the phone calls.
 
The skiers and the wives thought it was great. I made a snowman outside of our first floor room at the lodge, still have the picture of that. NEVER did it again and we’ve had plenty of offers. I think once your name gets on that kind of a list, it’s there forever.
 
Car thing: Probably not any worse than an F&I presentation when I come to think of it except you get a pillow, meals, cold hands (in my case) and you get to watch a movie while you thaw out.
 
jmonroe
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Re: [oldfarmer50] by jipster
Dec 09, 2008 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 08, 2008 3:59 pm)

Could I interest you in a "gentle loved" used unit? Of course, since this is a hot item (and you are desperate) there will be a slight ADM of $100 on top of the MSRP.
 
Thanks oldfarmer, but it has just become a buyers market. My Wallyworld tip proved fruitful.... I got a Wii.
 
Without even calling Walmart I went in at 12:30p.m. It's raining which I thought would be good as other weaker, less resolved, shoppers would not want to get out in the mess. I walked in quickly, trying to remain confident in the face of overwhelming odds against me. As I approached the display case where Wii consoles are held, I couldn't believe my eyes. Like a small child on Christmas morning, the miracle and wonder of an actual Nintendo Wii lay before my eyes. As I turn my head to the left, looking for a clerk, my eyes immediately lock onto the eyes of the electronics manager who had given me the "Wii arrival tip" a few days ago. I blurt out and point, " I want one of those!." She replies with a hint of I told you so.... actually saying, " I told you." I reply that I didn't think she would remember me. She says, "They just came in", then calls a cashier and has the order rung up. In and out of the store in about 4 minutes. Well, I tell you what. It's going to be awhile before I badmouth Walmart again. They came through when Target, Kmart and Best Buy failed. Now... off to take a steaming hot shower with a brillo pad.
 
Oh, thanks again dino, verdugo, and olderfarmer for the kind offers. My son is a gaming master. He is going to jump through the ceiling with joy come Christmas morning.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [driver100] by boomchek
Dec 09, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 09, 2008 5:10 am)

But you had to listen to a 2 hour presentation and then fight off the sales people who swarm you........and then feel guilty for not buying....lol.
 
My wife and I went to one, it was only 30 minutes. After that the saleslady did her pitch, using all sorts of formulasto show how we can save money by buying the timeshare.
 
I told her I agreed it might be a good deal for some, but for us, the resorts looked boring, and full of seniors (no disrepsect to seniors, just not out style). In additon, the last thing I need to do on vacation is feel like I'm at home and buy groceries and cook, therefore we'd have no need for resort suites with kitchens.
 
She finally asked what I do for a living, and I told her I sell cars. She immediately smiled, ended her pitch, and told us to go claim our free prize by the exit door.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [boomchek] by chikoo
Dec 09, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Dec 09, 2008 10:45 am)

>She finally asked what I do for a living, and I told her I sell cars. She immediately smiled, ended her pitch, and told us to go claim our free prize by the exit door.
 
Did she not fall to your feet and blurt out "Master...forgive me"
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [chikoo] by boomchek
Dec 09, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: chikoo (Dec 09, 2008 10:58 am)

That would be funny if she did.
 
My wife didn't want to go originally because she said the sales people are very good as they convinced her dad to buy a timeshare that he barely uses.
 
I told her not to worry, I'll handle everything. And we didn't buy anything. Although the funny thing is, when it came time to get our free trip to Vegas, we decided at the last minute not to go because the hotel was lousy, and the taxes for the trip and flight were pricey, and the dates weren't going to be confirmed till they receive our payment. Besides we were in Vegas twice already the past year.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [boomchek] by exb0
Dec 09, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Dec 09, 2008 12:29 pm)

boomchek, you are such a stroke. Shame on you.
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [boomchek] by driver100
Dec 09, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Dec 09, 2008 12:29 pm)

, when it came time to get our free trip to Vegas, we decided at the last minute not to go because the hotel was lousy, and the taxes for the trip and flight were pricey, and the dates weren't going to be confirmed till they receive our payment.
 
Oh Man, you had to pay them first before you get your "free" trip! That sounds like it could turn into a real nightmare.
My brother (who will do anything if he thinks he'll get something for free) went to a meeting at a hotel in town for a computer course in how to make money on your PC. He starved all day because they told him there was a free buffet. When he went to get his free meal they told him he first had to use a credit card and put a down payment on it for the course, or he had to pay $20 to have the buffet dinner. He left and he was mad, thought they couldn't get out of it. I guess it was free, but you had to make a down payment, and why on a credit card. He wanted me to go with, and I said I'd rather pay for my dinner than go through what I have to go through to get a so called "free dinner".
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Re: Auto Dealers are using Gas Vouchers and Travel Certificates for test drives [driver100] by laurasdada
Dec 09, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 09, 2008 5:10 am)

It was a long presentation, but we had no plans. It got comical at the end, especially when they told us they could actually get us financing at 18.95%! After I picked myself up off the floor from laughter, they noted that with good credit they could cut it to "around 15%..." Good thing the fall to the floor was a short one...!
 
The closer would have done you auto folks proud. Very fast talking, drawing all kinds of figures on pieces of paper to illustrate the great deal. Never once mentioning the actual APR, which I finally bluntly asked about, results noted above. He was of Iranian descent, showed us pictures of his son in the US Army. Nice touch. Initial "MSRP" was ridiculous, almost immediately cut in half when I noted the price was just a bit too high...
 
The nice, elderly salesman complimented my EW and I on our financial savvy and general intelligence. But he ended the presentation, realizing that we were not going to buy, by noting that, "You are both very intelligent. But foolish!"
 
If you have time to waste, and the gifts are good and you are intelligent and foolish, it may be worth your time... But, ultimately, just say no!

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