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Re: Sunday [mako1a]
by richard64
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Nov 30, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: mako1a (Nov 30, 2008 5:54 pm)
Dave, if you had a car built in Butler, PA in 1933, would you please send me your secret to longevity.
Richard
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Re: Sunday [mako1a]
by houdini1
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Nov 30, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: mako1a (Nov 30, 2008 5:54 pm)
Oh yeah. Well I used to live across the Bay from Oakland about 13 years ago. Now I have lived in Kansas City for over 20 years !
(I know those numbers don't add up but it is the best I could do without wracking my brain)
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Re: [driver100]
by rogeliov
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Nov 30, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 30, 2008 12:05 pm)
You confused me. If he would had said that to me that's how I would have responded. And if he walked away making one of those hand gestures I would have said "Have a nice day too. Don't let the door hit you in the ass." I guess I wouldn't last much in car sales huh?
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Re: [traindriver]
by rogeliov
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Nov 30, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: traindriver (Nov 30, 2008 12:06 pm)
Maybe Lexus guy has done a little research and has a reasonable guesstimate of what Alejandro's car should be priced at.... unless Alejandro wants to provide us with the model, price and miles there is no way to tell who is off base.
In that case he should have said: "Based on my reasearch a car like this should sell for $xxxx.xx Yours is overpriced in mho." and go from there. Alex could have come back with: "I might be able to lower the price provided the car meets your expectations and you will consider buying it."
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Re: Snake, where are you? [isellhondas]
by rogeliov
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Nov 30, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 30, 2008 12:56 pm)
You may want to post this one on the "Should we the big 3 get a loan" forum and the "UAW workers". Some poster by the name of dallasdude and gargrice seem to think out loud that Hondas and Toyotas don't last that long and the ones that do people are making it up. I swear I stopped posting over there since those two think they own those forums.
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Re: Snake, where are you? [isellhondas]
by snakeweasel
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Nov 30, 2008 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 30, 2008 12:56 pm)
And?
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Re: [rogeliov]
by snakeweasel
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Nov 30, 2008 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 30, 2008 6:49 pm)
In that case he should have said: "Based on my research a car like this should sell for $xxxx.xx Yours is overpriced in mho." and go from there. Alex could have come back with: "I might be able to lower the price provided the car meets your expectations and you will consider buying it."
It could very well have been priced so high that the customer might have thought that he could not have negotiated a reasonable price. Until we get more information on the car and its price we can't say for sure.
A few years ago when Suzuki came out with the SX4 someone was on one of these boards praising the car. So I thought I would drop by the local Suzuki dealership to get a look at the car since we were discussing it. Believe it or not on a $16K Suzuki they had a $4K ADM on it. If I were interested in the car I would have looked at that and walked away. Just way to much difference between what I would have paid for the car and what they were asking. Why go into a negotiation that I knew had little chance of resulting in a deal? This could have been a situation like that.
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Re: [snakeweasel]
by rogeliov
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Dec 01, 2008 (12:42 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 30, 2008 8:47 pm)
ADM or "sucker stickers" are just that. If you let that get in the way of doing business than you have no business buying a car. I'll digress. I looked at a hot car one time and they had a "sucker sticker" on it. Not only did I tell the salesperson I was not paying the ADM price or the factory sticker price. You should have seen how quickly the price came down.
Don't assume things are the way they appear to be.
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Re: [rogeliov]
by obyone
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Dec 01, 2008 (3:47 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Dec 01, 2008 12:42 am)
I looked at a hot car one time and they had a "sucker sticker" on it. Not only did I tell the salesperson I was not paying the ADM price or the factory sticker price. You should have seen how quickly the price came down.
If the price came down THAT quickly, I'd guess that car wasn't that hot to begin with. A good example would be a 2009 ZR-1 Corvette which has a MSRP of $103K. IF you can find one you could tell the salesperson that you won't pay ADM in which case they could really careless if you bought it or not as someone will. Similarly with a Nissan GT-R.
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Re: [rogeliov]
by snakeweasel
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Dec 01, 2008 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Dec 01, 2008 12:42 am)
It is one thing to have an ADM on a hot car like the ones obyone had mentioned. Its another thing to do so on a run of the mil car that everyone else was selling at sticker or below. Why in the world should I sit across from someone who is starting at $20K when I can drive a few miles and sit across from someone who would start at $16K?
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