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Re: [alejandrom] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 26, 2008 9:48 am)

And you work at a Toyota dealer? I thought Toyota got away from the "dinosaur" practices of the 70's, 80' and 90's and are now customer oriented.
If I were you I would run not walk from that store and find another one. What's the turnover rate there?
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Re: snakeweasel [nyccarguy] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Nov 26, 2008 7:09 pm)

"My Father-in-law had a 1994 Grand Caravan that had well over 270K miles on the odometer when he got rid of it in 2004. The body was all original. The van was on its 2nd engine, 7th (SEVEN, not a misprint) transmission, the rear struts that held up the liftgate didn't work, the interior was destroyed, the dash and seats cracked..."
 
I wouldn't be bragging about this POS just because it had 270k miles on her, specially after two engines and seven transmissions. That's not longevity, it's extending the life or life support.
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by alejandrom
Nov 26, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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I don't hate coming there because I am not afraid of you and I know it's my money.
 
I would hope that you aren't afraid of car salesmen. Why would you?
 
Anyhoo...your little declaration made me think of another clueless customer that walked in the other day. I'll give you the scenario....
 
Me: "Good afternoon. Welcome to Toyota of Blank. How can I assist you today?"
 
Clueless Customer: "I'm looking for Salesmen X"
 
Me: "OK...let me go flag him down for you"
 
CC: "Thanks"
 
Me: "He's wrapping up with a customer right now he'll just be a couple minutes. What are you guys picking up today?"
 
CC: "Oh...we are picking up a new Scion TC for our son. He bought a used one the other day at another store and his interest rate is to high so we took it back.The rate on a new one would make it a cheaper monthly to get a new Scion"
 
Me: "Wow....cool....while you are waiting for Salesmen X you can take a look at this certified used TC on the showroom floor."
 
CC: "I'm starting to get really nervous...I told him that I wanted to get a NEW TC for my son....I'm getting nervous NOW."
 
Me: "Why are you getting nervous mam?"
 
CC: "I don't see the new Scion TC's....I'm getting nervous....he never said anything about a used car....Salemen X told me we could look at NEW SCIONS....I'm getting really really nervous".
 
Me: "Mam...the new ones are over in the new car building over there. You are in the used car building. You don't have to get nervous. The new ones are out in front about 50 yards over there (points to the new Scions)."
 
CC: "I don't like the looks of this....I'm still really nervous...."
 
Me: Walks away shaking head.
 
Whatever.
 
I can't believe that grown men and women act like this when they walk into a dealership. What do they think is going to happen? Is some salemen going to magically make them sign paperwork roping them into a car deal that will ruin their lives? If the customers really knew what went on behind the scene they would have a very different outlook on things. More often then not the salesmen looks at the customer as more of an annoyance then anything.
 
Sorry...but that's reality.
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Re: November 24th [richard64] by chikoo
Nov 26, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: richard64 (Nov 25, 2008 6:37 am)

Richard, you should see the Porsche plant in Italy. I saw it on Discovery Channel. Awesome.
 
By the way, I used to work for a German bearing company in India. They setup a new plant which was run by only 6 Engineers. The output of that plant was equivalent to an older plant that employed 300 employees. The plant was so neat and clean that you could sit on the floor and not get your clothes dirty.
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Re: Tired of selling cars.... [greanpea68] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Nov 26, 2008 11:04 am)

I did read his post correctly and frankly if he worked for me he wouldn't be working for me. I would have fired him the minute I found out he was cherry picking. Blowing off customers left and right. Won't help single guys, only single girls, etc. Bad times come with the territory and you learn to ride them out or move along and give someone else the opportunity. From what I gather he came in to car sales when the money was there for the taking and no selling skills were required. Frankly, what selling skills do you need to sell used cars? "here's the keys, take it for a ride, if you like it we'll talk numbers." and that's it. With new car customers you have to know competitive models, horsepower, torque, cargo capacity etc. etc. and from what I've seen at new car dealers lately not many of your breathen have a clue. Then you wonder why customers are not bending over backwards to pay you MSRP for a car.
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Re: November 24th [joel0622] by chikoo
Nov 26, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 25, 2008 8:32 am)

>This is the South, people are for the most part are very respectful.
 
Well said. I can vouch for that.
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Re: November 24th [chikoo] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: chikoo (Nov 26, 2008 7:38 pm)

Porsche plant in Italy? Are you maybe thinking Ferrari? Last time I checked the Porsche Plant was in Stuttgart Germany.
 
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by alejandrom
Nov 26, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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I would have fired him the minute I found out he was cherry picking
 
If you knew anything about the business then you know that everyone cherry picks.
 
Watch the salesmen suddenly have to go to the bathroom when certain people pull up to the dealership.
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Re: Tired of selling cars.... [greanpea68] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Nov 26, 2008 11:06 am)

"I agree and feel your pain...... You can sell 5 cars a week but if the profit is not there and you are working 60 hours a week for $500 (5 mini commisions) after taxes and benefits it isn't worth it any more"
 
Let's see GP. He told us he is a "used car" salesman at a Toyota dealer. This tells me he can also sell new if he likes and stops cherry picking. Now from reading all these stories from the pro's in these forums I gather that used cars is where the money is. I rarely heard about someone making 100 bucks on a used car. Now let's break down the numbers: 3-4 ups a day according to Alejandrom. at a 20-25% closing ratio, one of the four is going to buy if not today later in the week. So if by chance he doesn't sell him today but he did his job and a proper vehicle presentation and asked for the sale at least five times he will come back and buy. So let's take the month of november. There's 24 selling days not counting Tksgiving nor Sundays. Let's take 4 ups a day. 4x24=96 96x.20 = 19.2 cars. You do have a unit bonus plan correct? how about participating in Finance money, and how about the old "rust and dust" you do still sell that junk don't you? So what's the problem? You want to go sell Chevys? or worse yet Dodge?
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Re: [alejandrom] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 26, 2008 7:49 pm)

Oh, I know quite a lot about the business my friend.

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