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Replying to: richard64 (Nov 26, 2008 4:07 pm) Sorry Bro, we have been getting after here today. I am delivering #9 for the day right now.
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 26, 2008 3:25 pm) Always a good sign when they play the "waiting game" on you oldfarmer. They figure they've got a live one, soften you up a bit with their lounge lizard food... then go in for the kill. You spoiled their little party by waltzing out the door, a complete salesman to consumer 180 degree reversal... putting you in the drivers seat. A bold and brash move. You may not have realized it... but you played the "Jipst Method" to the tee. Congratulations... nice to know someone has been paying attention (at least subconsciously). 
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This past Saturday I had the waiting game used on me when looking at a used Yukon. After almost 3 hours of trying to agree on numbers, they wouldn't go any lower than $27.5k on a certified 07 Yukon SLT w/37k they tryied to switch vehicles on me. Needless to say, I was a little ticked off so I told them I needed to ask my wife about it. It was almost 3pm when I got to the dealership and it was after 6pm when I finally got out of there. The most annoying thing was the salesman constantly telling me how good of a deal the SM was offering and how he never discounts their vehicles lower than their sale price. |
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 26, 2008 12:53 am) It doesn't work quite like that Junior. Let me give you an example. I've been married for 30 years and a couple of months back I told my wife to take a trip down to Home Depot to check out some ceramic tile for the kitchen. She didn't want to go, felt too tired, etc. So I let it go. The next weekend I asked her the same thing. I even told her I had checked out a nice 16x16 tile that I thought would look great in the kitchen. She declined again. Finally I said to her. Look. If you don't want to go that's fine. I'm going to go and I'm going to buy the tile that I like. If you don't like it that's though s-it. I gave you plenty of chances so you've been warned. A few days later she comes over and says: "Hon, can we go look at the tile for the kitchen?" so we went to look. And in order to spise me she picks out one that's twice the price of the one I picked. Our kitchen sits in the middle of the house and there's not much natural light going to it. So what does she pick? A dark brown tile that goes fine with the cabinets but now makes the kitchen look darker than before. I had picked a nice light marble looking tile that would have lightened the room. But no! She had to have her way and now we are stuck with a dark kitchen. Tiles are pretty nice but if we don't light all the kitchen lights it looks kind of scary in there. Heck, I showed up one night with the very first Scion xb and as I was parking it in the driveway I called her on my cell phone to take a peek. She about had a fit. "Get that ugly thing off my drive way!" Dang, I had to take the car back the next day. The way we buy cars in my household is she tells me what car she wants, what color and what options and I go find it. In all our 3o years of wedded bliss she has only stepped foot in a dealership twice. This was back in 1980 and 1991. The first time we were both new to the car buying process and we got clubbed like baby seals. Never again. The second time she gave me the specifications, I found it, negotiated the price took the paper work home so she could sign and it's been done that way ever since.
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Nov 25, 2008 10:33 pm) I can't tell you how many 250,000 mile Hondas I have seen that still run like new that have never had a major repair. The seats don't sag or tear and they are still rattle free. Yesterday, I met one of my customers in service. The 2002 CRV that I sold him has 285,000 miles and it's only had scheduled maintenance done. He told me that when he had his winter tires put on that the guy in the tire shop told him about an older CRV that he had recently been in his shop that had 430,000 miles. Pretty amazing.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 26, 2008 6:11 am) 
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 26, 2008 7:39 pm) My wife's dad was in car sales for years ending somewhere in the 80s. The one good thing I get from that is that he brought so many demos about that my MIL would love only to have them go quickly away. MIL taught wife "never fall in love with a car." This has served me well. Of course it doesn't make me not fall in love with a car... |
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Nov 26, 2008 7:55 am) I'm with you on this one Mike. I refrained from saying it lest the wrath of the hosts befall me. |
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no car is perfect. Reliability-wise, I don't know of any new car out there whose powertrain won't last at least 100,000 miles plus, Japanese, European, American, Korean... I think I worded that wrong. I think i should have added at least. I know there are other makes that go way over the 100K & even 200K mark with no problems other than routine maintenance, but what kind of shape are the cars in? My mother-in-law had a Plymouth Acclaim (1990 something) that had over 250K miles on it. The car squeaked, the headliner was being held up by the dome light, the interior was falling apart, the doors saggedand had to be lifted to close... FInally on the day she was supposed to take delivery of her 2000 VW Beetle, the car caught on fire while parked in the lot. She says it commited suicide. My Father-in-law had a 1994 Grand Caravan that had well over 270K miles on the odometer when he got rid of it in 2004. The body was all original. The van was on its 2nd engine, 7th (SEVEN, not a misprint) transmission, the rear struts that held up the liftgate didn't work, the interior was destroyed, the dash and seats cracked... It is funny you had such good luck with your corsica. My 1st car was a 1992 Beretta GT. The car had tons of quality control problems & design flaws ranging from power door locks that would not work when the rear defroster was engaged to my driver's side window that weighed so much that it kept separating from the track (not fun as a college student in Ithaca, NY). I finally said enough when at 60K miles I had to have the camshaft replaced because the 2nd lobe from the top completely wore off. I sold the car in 1998 for $3000 with 60K miles. My good friend who bought an Accord EX coupe (MSRP was $2K more than my Beretta) 2 weeks before I got my Beretta sold his Accord 2 years later with 90K miles and got $10K for it. I'm sure the gravel roads aren't kind at all to your car, but my beautiful Prelude spent the first 2 years of its life parked on the streets of New York City (Manhattan).
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