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by alejandrom
Nov 26, 2008 (12:12 am)
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And what's with the guys who have a "buddy" who works at the auction and can get a 2007 Camry for $4500 but they still come to the dealership to see if you have anything close to that?
 
Good lord...
 
And what's with the people who have a mechanic in the family so they think that they deserve a 50% discount because they won't need the warranty?
 
"Cousin Eddy fixes all my cars so I could care less about that warranty....I'll give you $10,500 for that $20,000 car.....out the door of course."
 
Good grief....heaven help me.
 
And I know I've mentioned the interest rate warriors before but those people really take the cake. Are they going to be sucked into some interest rate black hole if they pay over 5.9 percent on a used car?
 
Clueless Customer: "Why are Toyotas so expensive and why don't you guys have 0% on used cars?"
 
Me: "Because we don't have to....and why would a company that makes in demand vehicles want to take on a risk of loaning money and not make a profit on it?"
 
Clueless Customer: "But I can get 0% on any car I want through my credit union"
 
Me: "Great...are you ready to buy anything?"
 
Clueless Customer: "No"
 
Me: "Thanks for sharing that info about your credit union with me...keep in touch".
 
Interest rates....the bane of my existence. Why oh why do people think that a company should loan out thousands of dollars and not make a profit on it?
 
Crazy huh?
 
Welcome to my world.
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Re: Last purchase...sooo easy [mako1a] by oldfarmer50
Nov 26, 2008 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: mako1a (Nov 25, 2008 1:51 pm)

"...nice chick car..."
 
I guess to some people a car that rides nice and doesn't hurt your back is a "chick" car.
 
As a fellow "chick car" driver Just remember this, If young women like your car there is a better chance you can get them to take a ride with you.
 
When I'm driving my Eclipse I constantly see young girls turning to look. Of course when they see who's driving it they quickly turn away. Oh well, I'm a stud muffin again for a few seconds.
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Re: Tired of selling cars.... [jipster] by oldfarmer50
Nov 26, 2008 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Nov 25, 2008 7:24 pm)

"...at least you Mitsu guys still got Kia and Suzuki beat..."
 
And all of us can still look down on Hyundai, right?
 
"...I think alejandrom is just wanting to blow off a little steam..."
 
I agree. So how about you people cut him a little slack? Don't chase him off like you usually do or we'll be back to posts from jmonroe and jipster debating the best way to trim nose hair.
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Re: [alejandrom] by driver100
Nov 26, 2008 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 25, 2008 11:53 pm)

Until the day I die I will never understand the people who walk onto a car lot to look around if they aren't buying anything
 
You think of cars as 4 wheels and a steering wheel so you aren't the guy who dreams about buying the car he probably can't afford. Some people go to the mall to look at clothes, jewellery, sports gear, audio and video equipment, it is a leisure time activity for some people....and some people like to dream.
 
If you been with a woman for more then a decade I can't believe that she wouldn't trust your choice when it comes to 4 wheels and a seat.
 
It's called "respect" for your partner. It's a major purchase, probably includes wife's salary to some degree, she is going to ride in it and it would be best if she enjoys it too, I prefer her input in major decisions, it's part of the enjoyment of having a life partner. If you go on a trip with your partner you enjoy it more because you are sharing the experience with someone (I don't think it would be as much fun on your own), and same with the car....it is a shared experience and is more fun to pick it out together. It's different than bringing home a light bulb where there is no emotional attachment.
 
Another thing is my wife and I work better as a team in these matters. I might remember an option or notice something in the agreement when she buys a car...and visa versa. We also review the information together and come up with better decisions.
 
Aleej, you have no passion for what you are selling....it is just 4 wheels and a steering wheel and costs $X a month. Obviously you don't understand the dreamer who walks in and just wants to sit in the car. I bet with some friendly talk a few of those could be persuaded to buy. Someone who loves cars and has good potential to buy will be turned off when told well it's got 4 wheels and a steering wheel...let's see if the payments come in your budget.
 
If you can make $60 - $70,000 a year with that attitude you would probably double it if you were more positive and understanding.
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Re: snakeweasel & isellhondas [nyccarguy] by snakeweasel
Nov 26, 2008 (5:11 am)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Nov 25, 2008 9:33 pm)

no car is perfect. Reliability-wise, I don't know of any new car out there whose powertrain won't last 100,000 miles plus, Japanese, European, American, Korean...
 
I would say that if the car is decently maintained 150-200K + is no problem for any car today.
 
My 2001 Prelude (purchased new in April of '02) is on its way to 105,000 miles has not been babied in any sense of the word. It still drives like it is one solid block of steel.
 
Very good, with the exception of my Mustang (due to someone making a left turn infront of me way to late) and my Caravan (which the wife wanted gone a few years after we "just had to have it") I have put over 150K trouble free miles on each car I had. With the exception of my current drive they have all been domestics.
 
Currently I am driving a 2000 Elantra wagon with just under 157K miles. Trust me next to me you have babied your car, I have a few thousand miles running hard on dirt and gravel country roads across more farm fields than I can remember and forded a river a couple of times. So far only routine maintence on the car and it runs fine, yeah its showing some age (can't drive to far down gravel roads without getting some dings) but its still solid.
 
My wife can say the same about her 2002 Accent (except the more extreme driving conditions) at 120K miles, My daughters Elantra at 140K is still running great.
 
The car I was driving when I got married was a Chevy Corsica and I got rid of that after about 150K miles trouble free. The day I sold it to got about 125K or so more miles before he accidently put it in reverse at 50MPH.
 
My sisters Malibu has around 125K trouble miles and looks and drives like new.
 
My niece had a Caviler that was doing well at near 150K miles until she spun out on ice,
 
I have a buddy who has 1.) a Dodge van with over 200K miles on it that runs great and 2.) a Chevy Pick up that is closing in on 200K with no problems.
 
The the ultimate is my buddy who was given a used Volvo wagon from his uncle. He drove that for just over 20 years when it finaly gave up the ghost at 475K miles.
 
To be honest I don't see where Honda has much on anyone except in the area of perception.
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Re: [alejandrom] by driver100
Nov 26, 2008 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 26, 2008 12:12 am)

50% discount because they won't need the warranty?
Why are Toyotas so expensive and why don't you guys have 0% on used cars?"
 Are they going to be sucked into some interest rate black hole if they pay over 5.9 percent on a used car?
But I can get 0% on any car I want through my credit union

 
Very amusing. My dad always said...well if work was so much fun they wouldn't pay you for it. That's why you are making big bucks, to put up with this.
 
You probably won't stay in the business too long, especially if something else comes along, but the knowledge you are gaining is probably more important than the salary, and you are learning what you don't want to do for ever.
 
Like Oldfarmer said, don't want to scare you away, enjoy reading your thoughts, brings new insight into the car selling game.
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Re: [alejandrom] by snakeweasel
Nov 26, 2008 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 25, 2008 11:53 pm)

Until the day I die I will never understand the people who walk onto a car lot to look around if they aren't buying anything.
 
So every time you have walked into a store you have bought something?
 
Hey I am somewhat of a car nut, not totally but somewhat, and I like to see whats out there.
 
Secondly I like to keep an ideal of what might replace my current ride as both my and my wifes cars are high mileage. We don't plan on replacing them soon but circumstances may force our hand sooner than expected.
 
Like I said before, I could walk onto just about any import car lot at and find a vehicle in 15 minutes or less and be comfortable with my choice for the next 5 years.
 
Thats fine by you but like I said i want to know whats out there that can fill my desires (and I don't desire any brand name). Sure I can go into any car lot, import or domestic, and find a car that I like quickly, but then a while later when I sit in a friends car I might wonder why I didn't check that one out too. I will be driving my next car hopefully 10-15 years, I want it to be right. 20 grand is to much money to spend with just 15 minutes of looking around.
 
If you been with a woman for more then a decade I can't believe that she wouldn't trust your choice when it comes to 4 wheels and a seat.
 
You must never have been married. One of the biggest issue that hurt marriages is finances, because of this both parties should have input in big ticket purchases. Also remember as someone once said if you make the tiniest little mistake in this it will come back to haunt you.
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Who was tops on the safest car list by joel0622
Nov 26, 2008 (5:58 am)
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What Company leads the safest cars list??????
 
link title
 
I found it funny that no matter what we do the media still has to turn the knife a little bit.
 
When I searched for it allot of the headlines read, "Ford Tops Safest Car List, (with help from Volvo)"
 
No where did it say "Honda Comes In Second (with help from Acura)"
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Re: [alejandrom] by golic
Nov 26, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: alejandrom (Nov 25, 2008 11:53 pm)

Until the day I die I will never understand the people who walk onto a car lot to look around if they aren't buying anything. To me that is the social equivalent of nails on a chalk board.
  
If I'm not on the golf course then I'm doing something...anything....other then walking around car lots to see what they have. And that's not a slight against you but I just don't understand that mentality. If I ain't buying jewelry then you won't find me at the jewelry store. If I ain't buying groceries you won't find me at the grocery store.

 
--Yes, but I bet you have gone to a strip club?
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Re: Who was tops on the safest car list [joel0622] by nortsr1
Nov 26, 2008 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 26, 2008 5:58 am)

I certainly agree with you, the media would have big headlines if Toyo or Honda was first.

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