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Replying to: obyone (Nov 14, 2008 10:33 am) Why won't the Ram be tough? |
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 13, 2008 3:52 pm) This has happened more than twice with me now in the last 10 days. People have referred to my posts, but rather than attributing it to me, they say "someone"......hmmm
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Replying to: michaell (Nov 14, 2008 8:13 am) Only problem is it isn't a "hardtop" convertible....which BMW does have. Also, not available in Canada...not enough demand...but thanks for the tip.
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Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 14, 2008 6:36 am) And here is why; So winter tires are the answer if you enjoy stopping in a straight line after Jack Frost visits. And that would be four winter tires, not two, no matter what kind of drive system your car may use. Try running down the street with one winter boot and one summer shoe if you need a graphic experience to reinforce the idea that a car should have balanced traction. |
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 14, 2008 10:25 am) That is a great attitude. I came to realize you get out of work what you put into it. People who are lazy or want to avoid work hate being at work. Throw yourself into it and you get something out of it. Another thing is I had some crappy jobs along the way, especially when I had to take another job quicly after being downsized. But, the things I learned from those jobs was very valuable, I couldn't have started my own company without that knowledge. The knowledge was more valuable than the pay check. Boomer, you always go the extra distance to answer questions and reply, I think that and the willingness to do extra at the dealership will pay off one day. For every guy who will do extra, there's about 100 who won't (the one's who stand around and gripe all day), and that makes a difference.
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 14, 2008 11:09 am) New 07's. How does that happen? What are they worth? Chrysler does have excess inventory. What do you think about bailing out the Detroit Big 3? Or is that on another topic? Personally, I think it could be considered, but one thing is I would like to see the execs take a 90% pay cut until the company is in the black. And, I would like to see the auto workers take a 33% cut in pay until there's a turnaround. I think everyone has to do their part to get out of the mess. Be interesting if the government could remove some taxes on new cars...for a limited time!
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 14, 2008 1:01 pm) The cost of GM's death Automotive News | November 14, 2008 - 12:28 pm EST If Congress thinks a bailout of General Motors is expensive, it should consider the cost of a GM failure. Let’s be clear. The alternative to government cash for GM is not a dreamy Chapter 11 filing, a reorganization that puts dealers and the UAW in their place, ensuring future success. No, even if GM could get debtor-in-possession financing to keep the lights on (which it can’t), Chapter 11 means a collapse of sales and a spiral into a Chapter 7 liquidation. GM’s 100,000 American jobs will die. Health care for a million Americans will be lost or at risk. Hundreds of GM’s 1,300 suppliers will die. Their collapse could take down Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC, perhaps even North American transplants. Dealers in every county of America will close. The government will face greater unemployment, more Americans without health insurance and greater pension liabilities. Criticize Detroit 3 executives all you want. But the issue today is not whether GM should have closed Buick years ago, been tougher with the UAW or supported higher fuel economy standards. In the next two to four months, GM will run out of cash and turn out the lights. Only government money can prevent that. Every other alternative is fantasy. The $25 billion in loans that Congress approved to partially fund improvements in fuel economy? Irrelevant. Dead automakers do not invest in technology. The collapse of the global financial system has crushed the American car market, dried up revenues for the Detroit 3 and highlighted their weaknesses. Each of the Detroit 3 is in crisis. But Ford, which borrowed big two years ago and thus has more cash today, may skip a bailout and the strings attached. Cerberus, which bought Chrysler last year, doesn’t deserve money. Government cash might help sell Chrysler to a strategic owner. Some Detroit critics want their pound of flesh: Throw the bums out and install a government czar. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson won’t use any of his $700 billion bank bailout money to help manufacturers. In any case, he’d need a guarantee that a bailout would make Detroit “viable.” Well, nobody -- not even AIG -- is insuring guarantees for viability. The taxpayer needs protection and an upside. GM’s top management may need to go. Government-as-shareholder deserves a big voice. Those details can be worked out. The Detroit 3 CEOs and UAW President Ron Gettelfinger had better tell two critical congressional hearings next week what sacrifices they are prepared to make. But the stark fact remains: Absent a bailout, GM dies, and with it much of manufacturing in America. Congress needs to do the right thing -- now |
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Sing that to the tune of "I kissed a girl" over and over. Sold a used one and sealed up another ordered car. Let's get more of this going! I'm off to China for 10 days in December and need some spending dough. 
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 14, 2008 1:09 pm) Thanks for the information...it was very interesting. I am not totally convinced government money and saving GM is really going to save jobs if people aren't buying their cars. Won't other companies come in and take up the slack? Won't the other companies hire more workers and buy more steel to boost production? Won't we get rid of cars that aren't selling, and executives that steered the company down the wrong path, and workers who get $75 an hour to build inferior product? Do we try to keep the dinosaur alive when it needs more cash and creative ideas than it will ever come up with? Will more money go down the drain? Other people are losing their jobs too....but the unions won't cut pay or benefits. I am not saying I have the answers. I am just presenting the other side of the story. |
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 14, 2008 1:38 pm) |
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