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96 Toyota Innova assembled with expired engines by autovn
Jul 09, 2008 (9:06 am)
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96 Toyota cars have been found as having been assembled with engines left in a port for 2 years. The manufacturer now has to contact the clients who bought the cars to negotiate compensations for its error.
 
In early 2006, a container of engines for Innova and Hiace model cars left the manufacturing workshop in Indonesia for Hai Phong port, and arrived in the port 2-3 weeks later. The consignment of goods stayed at the port until February 2008 because Toyota forgot about it. It contained 89 engines for Innova and six for Hiace.
 
After discovering the consignment, Toyota Viet Nam asked Toyota Indonesia about the quality of the engines and was told that the engines had been left for too long, six times longer than the maximum recommended time (90 days), and should not be used.
 
Nevertheless, the engines were still used by Toyota to assemble cars.
 
An official of the Viet Nam Registration Agency said that the cars assembled with the expired engines could not meet standards for running. Assembling cars with such engines is not acceptable for such a big automobile manufacturer as Toyota.
 
On July 4 in the afternoon, Toyota Viet Nam officially admitted its mistake and blamed the mistake on the logistics division. 90 cars assembled with the engines have been sold since March 2008: four Hiace sold to individual clients and 86 Toyota Innova sold in lots.
 
Toyota has promised to give other cars to the buyers or refund 10% of the purchase price. Regarding the quality of the car, Toyota Viet Nam affirmed that the engines are still running well and that all cars sold meet Toyota’s standards.
 
Innova model was launched by Toyota Viet Nam in January 2006 and has become a best-seller. Some 30,000 Innovas have been consumed in the last 2.5 years, a record high for sales in Vietnam’s market.
 
Old engines startle customs agencies
 
An official of the Hai Phong Customs Agency, when talking with a VNExpress reporter, said he could not understand how the engines could have been left for such a long time at the port.
 
“This is really an unusual story in the history of the automobile industry, especially as this happened with engines for the Innova, the best-seller in the recent past,” he said.
 
The official said that he does not have information about where the consignment was put. Customs agencies will check to find out what is behind the trouble and who must take responsibility for the mistake.
 
In principle, when a consignment docks at a port, the owner of the consignment must make a declaration about the imports before the imports are unloaded from the ship. If the owners of the consignment do not receive the imports, the port will notify the ship owner about the tardiness, so that the ship owner can urge the import companies to come to clear the imports. The ship owner is responsible for the commodities until the commodities are cleared.
 
After the commodities are unloaded from the ship, the consignment owners must register to the port to be able to take the commodity to a bonded warehouse, and make declarations.
 
No one can give a suitable explanation about why the engines were left for two years. No one can explain how Toyota, a company which applies a strict management procedure, could ‘forget’ the consignment of imports.
 
The director of a car import company in Hai Phong city guessed that Toyota might have forgotten the imported engines because there were too many imports. However, she said Toyota should not have forgotten for such a long time.
 
Japanese officials at Toyota Viet Nam joint venture were also surprised at the mistake because no subordinate reported to them about the engines. (VNE)
http://www.vnbusinessnews.com/2008/07/96-toyota-innova-assembled-with-expired.ht- ml
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Re: GM making parts for toyoda? [deskman] by chikoo
Jul 09, 2008 (9:17 am)
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and we all know that Honda and Saturn are in bed tooo....
 
make that Honturn? or Satonda?
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Re: Welcome back! [richard64] by gogiboy
Jul 09, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jul 09, 2008 6:02 am)

"I wish that I could take credit for the good memory. I was reading the posts that I missed while we were in Florida. I ran across the name of the guy. Like you, I forget the stories after a day or two."
 
Richard--
 
Someone from the forum needs to be elected to maintain notes on Mack's previous installments of the "to be continued..." sagas. Since you are already the forum grammarian these tasks need to be distributed equitably. I know that Mack has left at least a handful of stories hanging on the precipice. Those of us who grew up on a steady diet of TV cliff-hangers in the 60s and 70s need the denouement, the Act IV, the epilogue. Obviously he is submitting his themes without a conclusion--get on him, Richard!
 
Maybe Mack's the lone hold-out from the writers strike that was settled. Let's ask his boss to boost his pay through additional incentives so that he has more time to finish his stories from the sales frontlines. Either that or he needs help negotiating a screen play deal.
 
Gogiboy
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98-200? toyota tacombas by greanpea68
Jul 09, 2008 (10:56 am)
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Anyone else dealing with the rusted frames of the Toyo Tacombas. I have had 3 people with this problem in the last week all waiting for good money on their trucks.
 
For instance this guy I had today had a 1998 toyo tacoma with 114k on it, roll up windows, 4x2... And he is getting a check for $10,500 next week because his truck won't pass inspection with the frame rusting
 
GP
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Re: club them like a baby seal [greanpea68] by jmonroe
Jul 09, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 09, 2008 8:43 am)

When they are here everyone is supposed to be on their best behavior.
 
I never knew the people in your biz had one of those.
 
jmonroe
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Re: 98-200? toyota tacombas [deskman] by fezo
Jul 09, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Forget the cheap steel - how's desk kid doing?

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