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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by dad23
Jul 02, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 9:10 am)

LOL - we need to start a list of deskman's terminology with definitions!
 
I take it that Jim Press was the only american on the board?
 
Edited to say: I may be slow, but I get there...and it's worth the wait according to mrs dad23
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by graphicguy
Jul 02, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 9:04 am)

deskman....hope you're right. If history is the teacher, we could see this coming. First, there was the "merger of equals" via Schremp. What it should have been called was the rape and pillage of Chrysler. Then there were the awful "Dr Z" marketing campaigns.
 
Kind of sticks in my craw the way Daimler sucked Chrysler's sizable (at the time) bank account dry. Then proceeded to force previous generation technology on Chrysler (Crossfire, components for the 300, etc). Then, being so bold to think MB was so superior as to have Chrysler develop products that had little chance to succeed with the Mercedes cast offs. All the while, MB stole the 4WD technology from the Jeep division to put into their own SUVs.
 
Some people said Chrysler drug the quality of Mercedes down to where it is today. I say it was the exact opposite. Mercedes drug down Chrysler's quality and technology.
 
Back to sales stories (actually questions).....
 
-Does a dealership, who is stuck with immovable merchandise cut staff when things get tough?
-If so, where to they cut?
-Is it by attrtition? Are the sales people making so little money from commissions they eventually quit, and aren't replaced?
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [graphicguy] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 02, 2008 9:20 am)

-Does a dealership, who is stuck with immovable merchandise cut staff when things get tough?
-If so, where to they cut?
-Is it by attrtition? Are the sales people making so little money from commissions they eventually quit, and aren't replaced?
 
The strong survive! the weak go on to greener pastures and a pipe dream or order take at toyonda for a lot less money
 
My owner cut his fleet of russian / ukrainian mistresses down to 4 .
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [dad23] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: dad23 (Jul 02, 2008 9:19 am)

only non asian
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [graphicguy] by laurasdada
Jul 02, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 02, 2008 9:20 am)

I'm rooting for Chrysler to survive/thrive, too. As a life-long import buyer, I surprised myself by buying a '99 Chrysler 300M. A first model year, domestic, CHRYSLER??? Was I insane??? It just caught my fancy... invoice pricing, 0% financing and away I went.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed that car. 5.5 years, 67,000 nearly trouble free miles (a couple of 1st model year, known issues repaired under warranty was about it). Build quality? Nowhere near the Japanese models I had owned, but it didn't leak, creak and nothing fell off. IMO, outstanding exterior style, nice interior (fabulous Plood!), nice handling for a large sedan, good ride and reasonable mpg.
 
But, as I headed to 70k miles, old prejudices die hard and I didn't want to own the platinum beauty into its middle/old age (Chrysler, the tranny was going to go... And the front end was not feeling right). So, traded it for my current Acura TL which I also thoroughly enjoy (invoice price, 2.9% for 48/months). Hated to leave the M on the Acura lot, hope it found a good home.
 
Current Chrysler products? Well, it has grown on me (familiarity breeds acceptance?), but the new 300 was/is not my cup of diet soda. The new Sebring is atrocious, imho (style-wise). Crossfire? Well, with the huge discounts might be a nice weekend toy. Calibre? Looks neat, but most reviews I've read haven't been overly kind. Never had a need/desire for any Jeep. So, currently there's not much that appeals to me. But, if I needed a minivan, I would definatley check out the Pentastar.
 
My Dad enjoyed his Concorde, other than noise and really bad build quality I enjoyed my company provided Intrepid and the 300M was fab. So, hopefully Deskman is correct in his views of Chrysler emerging bigger, faster and stronger. More competition in the field can only benefit us all!
 
And, yes, my lust still runs deep for a Jag XK... but my pockets run shallow...
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [laurasdada] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 02, 2008 10:26 am)

The new Sebring is atrocious, imho (style-wise).
 
I drove one from beavercreek to the sunshine state in may.if i did not have a few oz's of the dank killer sticky white widow mountain buds i would have left it at the edwards airport
 
I did make it from vail to miami on 4 tanks of 87 running 80 to 120mph the whole way.
 
I was rolling one handed spliffs and had the comedy channel on the drive home.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by laurasdada
Jul 02, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 10:41 am)

Roy L., you certainly paint a picture with your posts! I've really got to find a copy of your life story movie and enjoy it again! Enjoy your "mmile of cars..." and hopefully your prices arent't, "Toooooo xxxxxxing expensive!"
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [laurasdada] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 02, 2008 10:53 am)

you should have seen my in car entertainment for the drive home
 
Thanks to my boss for the natasha and thanks chrysler for the plentiful head room under the wheel
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [jipster] by jmonroe
Jul 02, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Jul 02, 2008 7:19 am)

Also, don't know why Chrysler messed up the nice exterior styling the previous generation Grand Caravan had. Now it looks like something Toyonda would design...blahh.
 
That’s about the way Son #1 put it about his new 08’ T&C Turing Signature Series (whatever it is) van when he compared it to his 02’ Grand Caravan that he traded for his entertainment center on wheels.
 
I believe he said, “This van isn’t about the outside, it’s all about the inside”.
 
I got to see this thing this past Saturday, you know, the one with the must have power adjustable pedals (for shorty, his wife who ain’t all that short), dual DVD players (second and third row seats), Sirius radio, CD hard disk drive, etc. etc.
 
When he was about half way finished with the touch screen display demo I said, “there is waaay to much to play with here; this thing is an accident waiting to happen”. What the driver really needs is a pair of blinders, but Chrysler didn’t provide those.
 
I sure hope he and his wife remembers what I tried to teach him when I taught him how to drive…”When you take yours eyes off the road your looking for trouble” and that was waaay before all this junk they’ve put on/into/around cars today.
 
There I went…sounding like an old coot again.
 
jmonroe
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by oldfarmer50
Jul 02, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 9:27 am)

"...My owner cut his fleet of russian/ukrainian mistresses down to 4..."
 
You mean there are a couple of hotties with accents running around unclaimed? I feel a drive to Florida coming on.
 
On the other hand, Mrs. farmer is polish/ukrainian and you don't want to mess with her when she's mad. Maybe I'll stay home.

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