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Re: Diesels? [jkinzel] by micosilver
Jul 02, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jul 02, 2008 7:09 am)

MB has the BlueTech offering this year and VW is going to have the 2.0L diesel in the Jetta by August I hope. I think Honda had something in works for the 2009 MY
 
The Jetta TDI is on its way. Every dealer has already received a demo car - sedan with DSG. I took it home for a day, and I got 40 MPG for mixed city/freeway ride home, 12 miles commute.
Right now I am pre-selling my allocation for the next 6 months - I am at the only dealership in SF Bay Area that doesn't markup to cars, so the business is going to be very good!
 
Mico
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [bvdj84] by verdugo
Jul 02, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 02, 2008 7:07 am)

I have to agree that Chrysler really needs to take this time, face reality and put more quality into their cars. I simply don't see it. Even the 08's look just slopped together, cold, plasticy look. The convertible is a joke, when compared to other models, that car simply does not hold up.
 
I have to disagree. I have an 08 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited and I'm very happy with it. The quality is veyr good. This is my first Jeep, but I've heard from other owners that the 08s are much much better than the 07s. So there's hope.
 
Having said that, my brother in Norway was looking at a Patriot. He was dissapointed about it. It didn't have a lot of the features that other similar cars there (Xenon, blue tooth, some mechanical things that I can't remember, etc.). So they aren't out of the woods yet.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [verdugo] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: verdugo (Jul 02, 2008 8:58 am)

Give Chrysler time.
 
The hitler youth( Dr Z and his gang of thugs) only returned to the fatherland a year ago.
 
In less than 24 months you will see a lean mean fighting machine
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [bvdj84] by mikefm58
Jul 02, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 02, 2008 7:07 am)

I also cannot believe that people are paying way over sticker for the Prius, you are simply dumping all of your gas savings right into the car payment.
 
LOL, on last night's local news, they had a family of 5 on and the guy says, "We decided to buy a Camry because of the high gas prices. Oh we're still keeping the Suburban, but for normal around the town driving, I couldn't afford the gas in the Suburban."
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [dino001] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Jul 02, 2008 8:03 am)

or Jim Press who was the only round eye on toyotas board
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by dad23
Jul 02, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 9:10 am)

LOL - we need to start a list of deskman's terminology with definitions!
 
I take it that Jim Press was the only american on the board?
 
Edited to say: I may be slow, but I get there...and it's worth the wait according to mrs dad23
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by graphicguy
Jul 02, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 9:04 am)

deskman....hope you're right. If history is the teacher, we could see this coming. First, there was the "merger of equals" via Schremp. What it should have been called was the rape and pillage of Chrysler. Then there were the awful "Dr Z" marketing campaigns.
 
Kind of sticks in my craw the way Daimler sucked Chrysler's sizable (at the time) bank account dry. Then proceeded to force previous generation technology on Chrysler (Crossfire, components for the 300, etc). Then, being so bold to think MB was so superior as to have Chrysler develop products that had little chance to succeed with the Mercedes cast offs. All the while, MB stole the 4WD technology from the Jeep division to put into their own SUVs.
 
Some people said Chrysler drug the quality of Mercedes down to where it is today. I say it was the exact opposite. Mercedes drug down Chrysler's quality and technology.
 
Back to sales stories (actually questions).....
 
-Does a dealership, who is stuck with immovable merchandise cut staff when things get tough?
-If so, where to they cut?
-Is it by attrtition? Are the sales people making so little money from commissions they eventually quit, and aren't replaced?
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [graphicguy] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 02, 2008 9:20 am)

-Does a dealership, who is stuck with immovable merchandise cut staff when things get tough?
-If so, where to they cut?
-Is it by attrtition? Are the sales people making so little money from commissions they eventually quit, and aren't replaced?
 
The strong survive! the weak go on to greener pastures and a pipe dream or order take at toyonda for a lot less money
 
My owner cut his fleet of russian / ukrainian mistresses down to 4 .
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [dad23] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: dad23 (Jul 02, 2008 9:19 am)

only non asian
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [graphicguy] by laurasdada
Jul 02, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 02, 2008 9:20 am)

I'm rooting for Chrysler to survive/thrive, too. As a life-long import buyer, I surprised myself by buying a '99 Chrysler 300M. A first model year, domestic, CHRYSLER??? Was I insane??? It just caught my fancy... invoice pricing, 0% financing and away I went.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed that car. 5.5 years, 67,000 nearly trouble free miles (a couple of 1st model year, known issues repaired under warranty was about it). Build quality? Nowhere near the Japanese models I had owned, but it didn't leak, creak and nothing fell off. IMO, outstanding exterior style, nice interior (fabulous Plood!), nice handling for a large sedan, good ride and reasonable mpg.
 
But, as I headed to 70k miles, old prejudices die hard and I didn't want to own the platinum beauty into its middle/old age (Chrysler, the tranny was going to go... And the front end was not feeling right). So, traded it for my current Acura TL which I also thoroughly enjoy (invoice price, 2.9% for 48/months). Hated to leave the M on the Acura lot, hope it found a good home.
 
Current Chrysler products? Well, it has grown on me (familiarity breeds acceptance?), but the new 300 was/is not my cup of diet soda. The new Sebring is atrocious, imho (style-wise). Crossfire? Well, with the huge discounts might be a nice weekend toy. Calibre? Looks neat, but most reviews I've read haven't been overly kind. Never had a need/desire for any Jeep. So, currently there's not much that appeals to me. But, if I needed a minivan, I would definatley check out the Pentastar.
 
My Dad enjoyed his Concorde, other than noise and really bad build quality I enjoyed my company provided Intrepid and the 300M was fab. So, hopefully Deskman is correct in his views of Chrysler emerging bigger, faster and stronger. More competition in the field can only benefit us all!
 
And, yes, my lust still runs deep for a Jag XK... but my pockets run shallow...

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