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Diesels? by jkinzel
Jul 02, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Most every auto manufacture around the world has a diesel version of most cars sold in the US and most of those diesel cars get twice the mileage of the gas counterpart. To make things worse, the mandated 10% ethanol in our gas reduces mileage by about 2% and E85 reduces mileage by about 25%.
 
If you are in AG or the recipient of fuel taxes, the US is the place to be. For the fuel consumer, not so good.
 
MB has the BlueTech offering this year and VW is going to have the 2.0L diesel in the Jetta by August I hope. I think Honda had something in works for the 2009 MY
  
What is the word on the show room floor as to new diesel offerings in the form of small to midsized passenger cars?
 
Diesel is higher than gas, but diesel would have to be 35% more expensive than gas before it would be the same in cents per mile to drive. IE $4.00 gas = $5.40 diesel.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [bvdj84] by jipster
Jul 02, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 02, 2008 7:07 am)

Even the 08's look just slopped together, cold, plasticy look
 
That's what I thought when I recently drove a Jeep Patriot. It's a lot of Jeep for the money, but interior and exterior quality is second rate. Also, don't know why Chrysler messed up the nice exterior styling the previous generation Grand Caravan had. Now it looks like something Toyonda would design...blahh.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by grandtotal
Jul 02, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 6:34 am)

At the risk of breaking one of cdnpinhead's rules
 
Chrysler is in much better shape than ford,gm and maybe even toyonda.
 
I hope you are right, but I think you are not.
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Re: General Motors holds off Toyota in June US sales [imidazol97] by mackabee
Jul 02, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 02, 2008 5:05 am)

Yeah, that's what I meant. I don't want to kill a bunny! Bugs is one of my favorite friends.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by graphicguy
Jul 02, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 6:34 am)

deskman....wished I shared your optimism for Chrysler. I had heard they were working on some diesel cars/trucks, but diesels, in the hands of the U.S. consumer, have never caught on. Plus, regardless of the savings reaped with a diesel, for some unknown reason, a gal of diesel costs a lot more than a gallon of regular petrol.
 
I had a breakfast meeting this a.m. near one of the largest auto mega sites near my 'burg. As I was driving away, I noted that one of the dealerships had a huge sign out front "HUGE SALE ON HUGE GAS GUZZLERS". Gotta love it.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [deskman] by dino001
Jul 02, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: deskman (Jul 02, 2008 6:34 am)

Chrysler has deals with nissan,volkswagen,chery,and soon fiat.chrysler has head hunted major talent from toyota/nissan/ford/gm.
 
Don't forget the guy who destroyed Home Depot and got lousy 200 million for it...
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [graphicguy] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 02, 2008 7:54 am)

The oil burners are coming guys.
 
 i think you will see diesel hybrids coming from the usa and european brands. a diesel operates in a very narrow power curve that is ideal for a generator that produces electricity and run at a constant rpm you can eliminate 99.9999 % of the toxins produced.
 
The big 3 aint going away anytime soon !!!!!!
 
Trust the Deskman on this one boys and girls .
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Re: Diesels? [jkinzel] by micosilver
Jul 02, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jul 02, 2008 7:09 am)

MB has the BlueTech offering this year and VW is going to have the 2.0L diesel in the Jetta by August I hope. I think Honda had something in works for the 2009 MY
 
The Jetta TDI is on its way. Every dealer has already received a demo car - sedan with DSG. I took it home for a day, and I got 40 MPG for mixed city/freeway ride home, 12 miles commute.
Right now I am pre-selling my allocation for the next 6 months - I am at the only dealership in SF Bay Area that doesn't markup to cars, so the business is going to be very good!
 
Mico
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [bvdj84] by verdugo
Jul 02, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 02, 2008 7:07 am)

I have to agree that Chrysler really needs to take this time, face reality and put more quality into their cars. I simply don't see it. Even the 08's look just slopped together, cold, plasticy look. The convertible is a joke, when compared to other models, that car simply does not hold up.
 
I have to disagree. I have an 08 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited and I'm very happy with it. The quality is veyr good. This is my first Jeep, but I've heard from other owners that the 08s are much much better than the 07s. So there's hope.
 
Having said that, my brother in Norway was looking at a Patriot. He was dissapointed about it. It didn't have a lot of the features that other similar cars there (Xenon, blue tooth, some mechanical things that I can't remember, etc.). So they aren't out of the woods yet.
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Re: YIKES!!!!!!!! [verdugo] by deskman
Jul 02, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: verdugo (Jul 02, 2008 8:58 am)

Give Chrysler time.
 
The hitler youth( Dr Z and his gang of thugs) only returned to the fatherland a year ago.
 
In less than 24 months you will see a lean mean fighting machine

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