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Re: darkness [richard64] by isellhondas
Jun 09, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jun 09, 2008 6:50 am)

It's about 3 inches longer and over an inch wider.
 
They improved the rear legroom and they did a good job of improving access to the third seat.
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Re: darkness [tidester] by jmonroe
Jun 09, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jun 08, 2008 9:03 pm)

Maybe he didn't miss too many. This guy did some measurements that showed only a small difference in temperature between light and dark interiors.
 
And this one suggests…

 
What these people are saying confirms the laws of physics; dark colored cars are hotter than light colored cars so nothing is new about that. What they are trying to prove is, since there is only a little difference in the delta temperature it shouldn’t make a difference. Like the one guy said, “what is you’re tolerance for heat”? There comes a point at which a straw breaks the camels back and the difference between light and dark colored cars is that straw for most people when it comes to the interior temperature of a car.
 
This reminds me of the summer of 93’ when I lived in S. C. not to far from Augusta Ga. The month of July was unbelievably hot. It started with the temperature being forecast at 100 degrees F and I remember saying to my fellow workers, “it’s always 95 degrees here at this time of the year anyway so what’s another 5 degrees”? Well I found out. It was BAD and I wasn’t the only one that felt that heat, whether in the car or out of it.
 
How hot was that July you might be asking? It averaged 99/100 degrees for the month. Nothing like the 120 degree Phoenix heat and I’ve been there when it was hot like that but when you account for the humidity in the south it was not pleasant and it went on like this for the whole month. Some days it was 105 degrees and the humidity down there almost matches the temperature. A record at that time IIRC. I remember saying to the locals there, “I don’t want to hear about how hot it was down here when you were growing up, cause it wasn’t this hot, at least not according to the National Weather Service.
 
So, like I said, when you’re at the near threshold point, it doesn’t take much to put you over the top.
 
Now having said all that, if I liked black on black I’d buy it. I’m sure I’d find a way to live with it. I like the looks of black cars, nothing looks better than one of them when they’re clean, as long as I don’t have to do the cleaning or sit in one as soon as the door is opened.
 
jmonroe
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Re: darkness [isellhondas] by mackabee
Jun 09, 2008 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 09, 2008 6:53 am)

"They improved the rear legroom and they did a good job of improving access to the third seat."
 
Too bad they didn't improve the looks!
 
                                                          
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Re: darkness [jmonroe] by richard64
Jun 09, 2008 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jun 09, 2008 7:08 am)

Yes, it is the humidity in the South that makes the heat worse. If you haven't lived here, it is hard to describe. I have visited my niece in Arizona in the summer. Though it is extremely hot there, it is different than the heat in the South. It was 102 degrees here yesterday. I walked outside at 1:00am this morning while the temperature was at 80 degrees. The humidity still made it seem warm.
 
I once owned a black Ford Granada sedan with red leather interior. It was a beautiful car, but so hot in the summer. After two years, we traded for a light blue buick with blue velvet seats. It seemed much cooler to us. There is a wonderful story about that Buick. I'll have to share it another time.
 
Richard
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Re: darkness [richard64] by mackabee
Jun 09, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jun 09, 2008 7:28 am)

This reminds me of the time I took my youngest son to White Sands National Park in New Mexico. We stopped in the gift shop and up on the wall was a t-shirt with two skeletons, one had a hat on and you could obviously see they died in the desert from the heat.
 One was propped up on a cactus and the other on a yucca tree and one says to the other:
"Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
  
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I see I've by dhamilton
Jun 09, 2008 (7:53 am)
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touched a nerve, my apologies. Everyone is allowed to be more comfortable in a lighter "leather" car, than a dark color leather.
 
Here in Texas, [maybe I should have qualified for humidity] the cream beige leather in a 5 series, is no more cooler than the black leather in the same car. Make sense?
 
This is with all due respect to those of you who don't sit in 3-5 different cars everyday................................
 
I'm sure BR's experience is different in the climate he's in.
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Re: Question [isellhondas] by greanpea68
Jun 09, 2008 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 08, 2008 3:40 pm)

I doubt if the interior color would make much of a difference.
 
Thinking about this also I doubt the interior color makes a differance. It is the outside color of the car that attracts the sun. The black soaks in the heat where the light or white colors reflects the heat...
 
Either way it hit 95 gegrees here yesterday and every car I got into was scorching. I think I lost 5 pounds just from sweating perfusely after entering some of the cars
 
GP
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Re: darkness [richard64] by mattandi
Jun 09, 2008 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jun 09, 2008 7:28 am)

I put our wagon up on jack stands in our driveway a week ago to change the brakes. Did it late Tuesday evening while my wife was home. Just being safe by having her around while I did the jacking and placing the stands. Did not go ahead and change the brakes. Then it got hot and has stayed hot with our wonderful, sticky humidity. I'm sure the neighbors are beginning to talk about us. I really don't like the heat, but I guess they would appreciate me finishing the job and getting that car off those stands.
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Re: I see I've [dhamilton] by british_rover
Jun 09, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jun 09, 2008 7:53 am)

I grew up in west Texas so I fully realize how humidity changes things drastically. I also had another thought that no one has brought up. How many BMWs have that new Climate Cool glass that came out a few years ago? Some of the highest spec range rovers have it now and it really does make a big difference.
 
Brief press release
 
The lower humidity and special glass could wipe out most of that five degree delta.
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Re: darkness [richard64] by jkinzel
Jun 09, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jun 09, 2008 7:28 am)

I walked outside at 1:00am this morning while the temperature was at 80 degrees. The humidity still made it seem warm.
 
80 degree is HOT. In western Washington our highs this past week have been in the mid to upper 50’s. At 1:00AM it’s like maybe 48. I think we are in for a cold, wet summer.

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