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distributor charges by hairgal
Jun 02, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Help, Im trying to find the answer to this question..toyota clearly states that the delivery charges are figured into their MSRP however I just purchased a new prius and there is a delivery processing and handling fee from a Gulf states Toyota of 715 the same price that Toyota quotes as being in their price already..and my options were all installed at the distributor not the manufacture..I did not realize this until I was reading on edmounds..these are not delaer charges they are distributor charges..Whats up with the double pricing? or is this customary.
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Re: have a question [fezo] by jkinzel
Jun 02, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 02, 2008 6:59 am)

Oh, I don't mind the Merry Minuet running through my head. It's scary how it holds up.
 
I don’t mind the tune that much either, it’s just that I can’t hear the other voices in my head over the music.
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Re: have a question [jkinzel] by fezo
Jun 02, 2008 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 02, 2008 7:30 am)

I don’t mind the tune that much either, it’s just that I can’t hear the other voices in my head over the music.
 
Now THAT I can relate to!
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Re: distributor charges [hairgal] by dino001
Jun 02, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: hairgal (Jun 02, 2008 7:19 am)

Looks like Gulf States uses same tactics like our beloved SET. Junk "options" and "mandatory" fees put on Monroney sticker like it came from the manufatcurer. The only way around them is to negotiate total OTD value and if they want "price" of $10 and "fee" of $21890, it's their prerogative.
 
Unforrtunately on Prius they pretty much can charge whatever they want - and call it whatever they want. The only thing it achieves is that "price" is put in front so stupid customer thinks they pay X and "fee" in the back and sneaked in at signing, at which point stupid customer is too committed to walk out. Firm OTD is pretty much the only way to combat that.
 
I'm, still in owe that Toyota allows them do it. Seems like they have such a strangle hold on the distribution (an ironclad 100-year contract or something like that) that there is nothing we can do short of buying something else or going 1000 miles to buy from other distributors.
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Re: distributor charges [hairgal] by jmonroe
Jun 02, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: hairgal (Jun 02, 2008 7:19 am)

…and there is a delivery processing and handling fee from a Gulf states Toyota of 715 the same price that Toyota quotes as being in their price already.
 
..Whats up with the double pricing? or is this customary.

 
I’m not sure that you are going to like the answer but we’ve learned right here that this is your “reward” for buying a Toyota in the SET area (Southeastern Toyota).
 
As a new owner of one of these prized machines you'll have to tell us (yay or nay), if this "premium cost" is worth owning a Toyota in this area.
 
I have said all along that if I lived in the SET area I’d fall in love with another brand unless everyone else’s price is the same for the equivalent machine but that’s just me stating my opinion and everyone here knows what that is worth.
 
jmonroe
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Re: distributor charges [jmonroe] by dino001
Jun 02, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jun 02, 2008 8:05 am)

In less popular models there is a lot "invoice/below invoice" advertising here (of course it's "invoice" plus fees), so at the end it's just a big scheme run by the owners to pay nothing to the salespeople and collect more to themselves (or to "motivate" their sales staff to sell even more aftermarket crap to offset all those losses). Bottom line - I think from customer point of view OTD pricing is often the same after all as long as you are not a total laydown and pay everything they come up with. The only place it may be truly hurting us in SET area is the models in demand, where SET crap is a "smart ADM" that people might not be paying otherwise if the pricing was pure MSRP, like in other regions/brands.
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Re: distributor charges [jmonroe] by bigbutr
Jun 02, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jun 02, 2008 8:05 am)

When I was checking out the 08 Camry, I found a few of them on the lot without that SET mark-up on the invoice. I found this strange since every dealer I've been too said it is on every one of them and comes to them that way. I told the salesman the charge for etching, soundproofing, undercoating and a free first oil change wasn't worth $715, though he did offer there was a 10 percent difference in road noise with the undercoating as opposed to being without it. I test drove two cars and didn't notice it in the one without it. I ended up going with an 08 Accord LX-P since I got a better price with more options as opposed to the LE Camry they wanted to sell me.
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Re: distributor charges [bigbutr] by jmonroe
Jun 02, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: bigbutr (Jun 02, 2008 10:53 am)

I test drove two cars and didn't notice it in the one without it.
 
Either your hot pants for a Toyota weren’t as hot as the salesman thought or you weren’t listening as intently as the salesman does when he points out the benefit/quietness of the undercoating as he does to other buyers or BOTH.
 
I ended up going with an 08 Accord LX-P since I got a better price with more options as opposed to the LE Camry they wanted to sell me.
 
You may have started a feud between ‘isell’ and ‘mack’ about this decision and the value of it. But, since it was your money, you oughta know.
 
jmonroe
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Re: distributor charges [jmonroe] by hairgal
Jun 02, 2008 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jun 02, 2008 8:05 am)

I have to say Im not very happy about this bit of news..I still got a competitive price for the car at this time..but when and if I buy Toyota again, this will definately be something I will voice my opinion about..Thanks for the info..I knew there had to be an explanation.Im having my windows tinted tomorrow..I cant wait to have this little discussion with my salesman.
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Re: distributor charges [hairgal] by dreasdad
Jun 02, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: hairgal (Jun 02, 2008 2:29 pm)

you where not charge double the $715 is the destination charge in gulf states, it is 55 dollars higher than if you had bought the car in in a non gulf state, calm down and be happy

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