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Re: Mapquest is great [fezo] by british_rover
May 19, 2008 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2008 10:58 am)

Right now I'm fighting looking at what a local lot wants on a 2004 Volvo C70 HPT convertible. Nice looking car and I'm a sucker for nice convertibles.... And one with Volvo seats yet!
 
What are they asking for it and what are the miles.
 
I have a 2004 C70 HPT as well...
 
I also have a manual transmission HPT coming.
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Re: Mapquest is great [british_rover] by fezo
May 19, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (May 19, 2008 11:02 am)

It's got 33,500 on it. They want $19,995 (could be worse - they could want $20,000...).
 
Unfortunately I can't link it directly but if you go to Manahawkin Auto Sales and just search the convertibles.
 
I'm not sure how this guy stays in business at times. He's had an Outback that's been on the lot for two years! Normally has a couple BMW convertibles (as he does now) - always overpriced and with automatics. At least a Volvo with an automatic I can live with.
 
Do realize I just bought the Celica to have a convertible and am pretty much window shopping. I have shown I can crack under pressure though....
 
As soon as Craig sees this he;ll go, "Steve! Not a Volvo!..."
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Re: Mapquest is great [fezo] by british_rover
May 19, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2008 11:09 am)

19,995 is not a bad price if looking at the C70s we have is any indication. The 2004 C70 HPT that we have has 40,000 miles on it and it is certified to 100,000 miles but I don't think we could let it go for under 20,000. It is priced at $21,995 right now.
 

 
Not a bad looking vert and I like that dark blue paint.
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Taste of someone else's medicine. by madmanmoo
May 19, 2008 (11:22 am)
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I went car shopping for my brother last week. They decided that it was time to get a new minivan. My dealership owns about 13 dealerships in the Metro Atlanta and a Honda store was one of them. I knew that I got an "employee" deal and called up to the dealership to see if I could pass that along to my brother. They said sure and to come on down.
 
I checked their preowned lot and saw a couple that I thought were a good fit. If any of you remember from my earlier stories, "Psycho Salesman" works there now. I called him directly and inquired about 2 vehicles that were on his website. One had very low miles and the other was in the low 30's. He checked on the low mileage car and told me that it was sold, but that the other model was still available and looked in great shape. I told him I was going to come down and take a look.
 
When I arrive, I find that the Odyssey is on the back line and the entire bumper is caved in. He seems nonplussed when he sees it and says the lot boy did that that AM. Okay........
 
We try to find something that I think my brother and sister-in-law will like, but everything looks super rough and way overpriced. Even with my "employee" discount. I ask what the certified warranty covers.... he doesn't know. How long does it last? Doesn't know. What's the special rate that's being offered? Doesn't know. The weirdest part is, he just tells me to go to the website and look it up. This is with U/C managers standing feet away from him!
 
I won't ramble on too much, but the experience was less than fantastic. His idea of telling me that I'm getting a deal is letting me know that I didn't have to pay the junk fees that the dealership normally tacks onto their cars. $699 Appearance package.......
 
Looks like I'm either finding another salesman or another dealership. I feel for you folks out there shopping right now. Make sure to find a decent salesman, because it's the difference in a great/bad experience.
 
On a bright side, I suppose these bad salesman make my job that much easier.
 
-moo
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Re: customer service [british_rover] by isellhondas
May 19, 2008 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (May 19, 2008 11:00 am)

My thoughts exactly!
 
He sounds like he has a major chip on his shoulder along with a bad attitude.
 
It's like "How DARE they not accept my INVOICE offer on a brand new Accord?"
 
He actually WALKED OUT on his salesperson who was in there fighting to get his offer accepted? And HE was mad??
 
not a person I would want for a customer!
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Re: Mapquest is great [british_rover] by fezo
May 19, 2008 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (May 19, 2008 11:14 am)

Yeah, the dark blue is nice. Really works with that car.
 
Say, for the sake of argument, I'm trying to compare apples to apples here. On that car what do you figure certification is worth?
 
Man, I shouldn't have driven by there. I really like that thing....
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Re: customer service [isellhondas] by fezo
May 19, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 19, 2008 11:24 am)

Yeah, even to a non-salesman such as me that seemed pretty nasty. Some people are just born that way and you pretty much have to write it off.
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Re: Taste of someone else's medicine. [madmanmoo] by greanpea68
May 19, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (May 19, 2008 11:22 am)

On a bright side, I suppose these bad salesman make my job that much easier.
 
Good to hear your breathing Moo-
 
There is a toyota store the next block down from us. Wheen someone says they are looking for toyota I stress that they go look at it right away at this dealership. 8 Out of 10 times when they actually go they will come back upset about the way they were treated. It may be a mini deal but a deal is a deal.
 
GP
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Time consuming by greanpea68
May 19, 2008 (11:38 am)
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I understand it may take a while for customers to come back from the desk with offers. What people forget is there may be 2 desk guys trying to do numbers on 12 sales people. Run credit, appraise cars, look at whats available, call whole salers, refilling the printer machine and the list goes on.
 
 As frustrating as it may be for the consumer it is also frustating ( only speaking for myself ) the sales person. I know every second counts when I have a customer is in front of me. But it does take time.
 
As for the young kid who walked out I took his story as the negotiations were over and it was time to leave but after hearing other responses i am wondering if the sales person was working with the desk to get his payments lower. Which very well may have been the case. These youngsters today may be a little inpatient after growing up with everything available at the click of a button.
 
GP
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Re: Mapquest is great [fezo] by british_rover
May 19, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2008 11:25 am)

I think the warranty cost of Volvo's certified warranty is around 1,300 dollars but I might be off a little on that but Volvomax would know for sure. The other costs that go into the certification are a little harder to pin down. If the car was kind of rough to begin with and they had to put tires, brakes, cosmetic work, windshield repair, etc into the car to get it up to the certification level then that price goes up.
 
On a car like a Volvo I guess a certification is worth a couple of thousand extra but probably no more.

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