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Re: I think the difference [snakeweasel] by richard64
May 17, 2008 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 17, 2008 4:22 pm)

Not YOUR supplies dummy---THEIRS! You know, like crayons, chalk, scissors, construction paper, bulletin board paper, etc.
 
Richard
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How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys by godistoocool
May 17, 2008 (9:11 pm)
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I am in the car businees now and have 10 years experience in everything form sales to finance to sales manager...I am currently an Internet Manager for a HUGE company. My companies pay structure is desinged around the percentage of satisfied clients that complete the survey. If we fall below 92% average...we lose a huge chunk of pay. One bad survey out of 10 takes costs severely. While we desperately try to satisfy all our clients, the truth is some are going to hammer us on the survey. That is totally unacceptable in the car world today. The sad reality is a common way to get a decent survey is to bribe them with a free tank of gas or some other non cash item. While I am highly impressed with the number of salesman that do not partake in this bribe, I have to admit that the average salesman is pressured from upper management to call every client and offer them this or some other freebie in return for the actual survey...to completed by the salesman and then mailed in to the manufacturer. The manufature is catching on and has automated the system to offer online surveys emailed to you. I only write this to underline the importance of the survey to a salesman's compensation and job security. You have a lot of power so please use it wisely.
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Re: How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys [godistoocool] by tidester HOST
May 17, 2008 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: godistoocool (May 17, 2008 9:11 pm)

If we fall below 92% average...we lose a huge chunk of pay.
 
You cannot lose what you have not earned.
 
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Re: How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys [godistoocool] by obyone
May 17, 2008 (10:59 pm)
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Replying to: godistoocool (May 17, 2008 9:11 pm)

Let me understand this. After pulling bait n switch, lowball, two team, hiding potential clients keys, etc. in your opinion you believe that the salesperson should get a good survey for a free tank of gas or lube job?
 
Not saying that every dealership does this and even those that do and get away with it still believe that the salesperson should get a perfect survey? Or do these stores that actually encourage these practices immune or simply don't care about surveys?
 
The only reason I ask is that in my opinion it is unreasonable to expect a good survey if the customer felt intimidated, insulted, or taken advantaged of. Then again a tank of gas is worth more each day.
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Re: A story to change the mood [mackabee] by obyone
May 17, 2008 (11:06 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (May 17, 2008 6:46 pm)

There is a difference in the young crowd that wants their car to look fast (ricer) and those that actually want it to go fast. I'm sure the aftermarket companies are aware of Hyundai and the fact that no one makes go fast parts for their cars says something.
 
I mean they make CAI and coffee cans for Corollas how much more could it cost to make one for a Hyundai?
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Re: How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys [godistoocool] by geffen
May 18, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: godistoocool (May 17, 2008 9:11 pm)

How often do surveys go out to customers? Is it at random or to every customer? I took delivery at the end of April I haven't received a survey.
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Re: How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys [geffen] by snakeweasel
May 18, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: geffen (May 18, 2008 5:06 am)

Thats ok I took delivery in 2000 and still haven't received my survey. Maybe it will come in next weeks mail.
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Re: How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys [tidester] by dino001
May 18, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: tidester (May 17, 2008 9:15 pm)

You nailed it. As I mentioned before, those 100% expectations and bonus moneys are designed to squeeze last drop of salespeoples' (and dealers) sweat to push the stuff AND STILL NOT to be paid out to a salesperson/dealership. Dangle it in front of them and then put it deep into a vault and throw away the key... Just like 1 partnership shot "offered" to 100 associates in large law firm, a tenure track in Ivy Legue (without real change for a tenure) and other similar schemes. All just so you guys bust your asses and still come away with nothing.
 
I know it may be a heresy to say it here, but it appears to me more and more that the salespeople might be better off (at least in terms of achieving balance)considering the money NOT THERE FOR THEM at the first place - and if they get it great, if they don't - well, life goes on. I would not plan my mortgage payments on those CSI bonus payments, if I were in the frontlines, anyway.
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Re: How the Salesguy is really able to get perfect surveys [godistoocool] by jkinzel
May 18, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: godistoocool (May 17, 2008 9:11 pm)

It sounds to me like the company you presently work for has made a very good business decision as far as increasing profit margin at the expense of the employees. To have a big part of your income rely so heavily on a piece of paper that will more than likely be thrown in the trash or filled out by a person who is having twinges of “buyers remorse” is not fair to the employee.
I have never been in the selling business, but looking at it from the consumer side You are really at my mercy.
Lets see: I need a car and I know what I want. I know I’ll be putting out about $5000 up front and will be stuck with $500 a month payments for the next 6 year.
You sell me the car and do a wonderful job BTW, I take it home. It’s a great car, looks good, I could not be happier.
Several days later or two weeks later the survey shows up in the mail. I sit down to fill it out and you start to think back: Gee, The coffee was not that good. Or he/she had to take a phone call while helping me, or I should have got grey instead of blue.
 
Awww screw this guy, I’ll never see him again…. all zero’s
 
I perceive your employer as not having a very high regard for the people that allow him the ability to buy a better brand of Scotch.
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Re: Clear as Mud [houdini1] by greanpea68
May 18, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 17, 2008 10:53 am)

You have to figure out a way to screw the customer out of every available dime and then have him or her be so thankful and grateful that they award you perfect scores down to how the lot jockey washed the windshield.
 

 
That's what's called "Putting someone together"
 
This is another term that is used in the business that I don't it think has been mentioned yet
 
GP

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