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Re: TV had a story on MPG [snakeweasel] by laurasdada
May 11, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 11, 2008 1:12 pm)

"Does 2 to 3 MPG really make that much difference?
  
Do some people yes, thats why things get priced at $9.99 instead of $10.00. Its all perception."
 
Yes, a 2-3 MPG difference. And that's reality!
 
El Cheapo Grande,
 
Laurasdada
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Re: TV had a story on MPG [laurasdada] by snakeweasel
May 11, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (May 11, 2008 2:01 pm)

Well laurasdad that extra 2-3 MPG would add up to a savings of less than a gallon of gas per week for most drivers. That would hardly show up on most peoples radars.
 
Certainly not enough of a savings to go through the trouble and expense of swapping out cars.
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Re: Do salespeople make money on below invoice deals? [geffen] by mackabee
May 11, 2008 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: geffen (May 11, 2008 6:07 am)

The protection package was put on the vehicle as soon as they agreed to buy it. When they went into the business office is when the deal almost unraveled. They didn't pay for the pro-pack but it was put on the vehicle. When they came out of the business office I was told they didn't want it and didn't pay for it. So they got it for free.
 Mack
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Re: Sales story [chikoo] by mackabee
May 11, 2008 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: chikoo (May 11, 2008 8:15 am)

If not better.
 Mack
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Re: Do salespeople make money on below invoice deals? [snakeweasel] by obyone
May 11, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 11, 2008 1:07 pm)

Ever seen those slots that pay $1199?
 
The casinos will 1099 you if you win $1200 but not $1199.
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Re: TV had a story on MPG [mako1a] by dino001
May 11, 2008 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: mako1a (May 09, 2008 7:07 pm)

I happen to know those things get 28 hwy and 24 when you drive hard. Perhaps a few less when you try to get it airborne.
  
Makes no sense to me. I have a Toyota V6 getting 30.8 AVG MPG for the last 3 years and would trade for a 01 Vette all day long.
 

 
I don't believe in 24 mpg on a hard-driven Corvette for a second. Would not be surprised if it was more like 18 mpg. Big V8s have this thing, you know, called displacement. If you rev the car up to 5-6 thousand rpms, something has to fill it's combustion chambers to get that torque working and those wheels spinning - it's called gas (air, too of course, but gas is needed in large quantities to move those large pistons in large cylinders). Now, when you idle it on highway at 60 mph on the right lane then yes, you may get 28 mpg. Of course I don't believe in 30 mpg on V6 Camry driven hard, either, but I bet the differential is slightly less than the Vette's.
 
However, with car like Corvette the gas mileage is really beside the point. If can't pay $2000 or even $3000 year for gas, you have no business in buying a $50-100K car, period. Even if it's used and I got a good deal, whatever that might mean. So a guy trading Vette for econocar because of gas mileage has much deeper issues with his finances than he wants to admit. Probably should have not gat that car at the first place.
 
BTW, at 25 mpg, 5 mpg more translates to $300/year at 15K miles and $3.5/gal. However, same 5 mpg bump at 15 mpg (say big truck gashog traded to large crossover) translates to $875/year. Coversely, at 35 mpg, another 5 mpg bump is only $187/year, which means from purely economic point of view, there are better choices than hybrids, or in other words, fuel is not enough justification to go from s 4-cylinder to hybrid Camry. The fuel cost curve is a hyperbola approaching infinity at 0 mpg, so drops are large at low mpgs and small at high.
 
After being here for 10 years, I see manufacturers and merchants insulting intelligence of their customers and getting away with that over and over again. Marketing and advertizing is almost everything here. People do crazy stuff all around the world, but it's really astonishing how easy people buy into trends here. Almost unbelievable.
 
Rant finished
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Re: TV had a story on MPG [dino001] by tedebear
May 11, 2008 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: dino001 (May 11, 2008 3:37 pm)

I don't believe in 24 mpg on a hard-driven Corvette for a second.
 
For comparison, I own a Viper that gets 12 mpg in mixed driving and that's if I don't drive it hard at all. On the highway, with a tailwind and in 6th gear at 1200 rpm I can practically idle along at 70 mph and get around 22 mpg but who wants to do that?
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2 to 3 MPG by jkinzel
May 11, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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If you drive 12,000 miles per year and you pay $3.75 a gallon for RUG the difference between a car that gets 25MPG and 28MPG will be about $262.50 annually.
 
If you keep the car 10 years the difference will be $2625.00 and 700 gallons of RUG.
 
Now, how environmentally concerned are you?
 
Your call.
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Re: Do salespeople make money on below invoice deals? [obyone] by snakeweasel
May 11, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (May 11, 2008 3:26 pm)

Sorry 1099's have to be made out if payments are $600 or more. However gaming winnings are not reported on a 1099 but a form W2G and the amount varies on circumstances (Slots its $1,200. keno $1,500 and others if its over $600 and 300 times the original wager)
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Re: TV had a story on MPG [snakeweasel] by laurasdada
May 11, 2008 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 11, 2008 2:40 pm)

Hey, I haven't amassed my wicked impressive fortune by not actively seeking ways of saving a buck or two here, there and everywhere...!
 
And by "fortune," of course I mean debt.

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