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Re: Tug Races [jkinzel] by isellhondas
May 10, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 10, 2008 11:53 am)

Now, that would be fun!
 
How fast can a tug go anyway?
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Re: Do salespeople make money on below invoice deals? [benzserviceguy] by jescue
May 10, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: benzserviceguy (May 10, 2008 9:48 am)

Sounds familiar.
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Re: Annoying things dealers do/customers do [micosilver] by jmonroe
May 10, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: micosilver (May 10, 2008 10:10 am)

Here is a port I found on Craigslist Auto Forum, in a discussion about internet sales:
 
I think it is just a game with them and of course they are not going to answer any calls or call you back.
  
I wonder how many of your inquiries are of this type?

 
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make unless it’s that there are strokes out there playing games. I think everyone knows that. Now, as a car dealership, if you’re going to say, “that’s why I don’t care about doing business over the internet”, that is certainly you’re choice.
 
I was at a Christmas party just this past Christmas and there was an experienced car salesman now SM there (I think he said he was in the biz about 27 years, 20 with his present dealership). I just had to ask this guy what he thought about the Internet regarding car sales and I told him about my last two experiences. He said it’s starting to get better but it’s still a PITA and they talk about it at business meetings all the time. He said they can’t give up on it because it seems to be the way people want to buy cars today and they’re not willing to give their competition the edge by getting out of it now. He also said you wouldn’t believe how much it costs to set up a good site that is buyer friendly and to keep it up to date. That’s probably another reason why they don’t want to throw in the towel.
 
So, you car biz guys, is this the way you see it in your neighborhood?
 
jmonroe
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Re: Annoying things dealers do/customers do [jmonroe] by fezo
May 10, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: jmonroe (May 10, 2008 2:24 pm)

I could see where a good web site would be pretty expensive to set up. I see some dealers with really good ones and other with horrible ones that are nothing more than an excuse to say "we have a web site." Saw one of those the other day. Saw a car on the actual lot and just out of curiosity went to look up the particulars. This lot wouldn't even tell you what cars they had without you filling in a thing with your phone and E-mail. No thanks. I wasn't that curious.
 
In general my use of Internet in buying has been shopping rather than buying mostly because that seems to be how most of the dealers work. One would have had me on the hook with a simple personal reply to an E-mail but wouldn't do it.
 
Not easy. Lot of distrust on both sides.
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Re: Do salespeople make money on below invoice deals? [greanpea68] by benzserviceguy
May 10, 2008 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (May 10, 2008 11:44 am)

From what I hear, the larger corporate run stores only care about shareholder results. Therefore, you are merely a pawn in their larger chess game or a cog in the wheel works.
If you don't sell, their mentality is "We can find someone that can" and out the door you go.
 
Our store was privately owned. They sold a few years back to another private owner, who sold his other store to one of the 'big guys".
Now he only owns us and another store in a southern state.
Although we are privately owned, there is some big store "corporate bueracracy". Not too bad a 'culture" and the $$ is still good!!
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Re: Tug Races [isellhondas] by jkinzel
May 10, 2008 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 10, 2008 12:19 pm)

Most run lite (with out a tow) about 10 - 12 knots. The tug that ususally wins the class A race is the Hunter than runs 17 knots.
More later.
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Re: Tug Races [jkinzel] by fezo
May 10, 2008 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 10, 2008 2:46 pm)

Man, that sounds like fun. I'm on teh wrong coast...
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Re: Annoying things dealers do/customers do [fezo] by oldfarmer50
May 10, 2008 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 10, 2008 2:34 pm)

"...I could see where a good web site would be pretty expensive to set up..."
 
Are you sure? Every morning when I get up at 5 AM there is an infomercial on TV staring two large breasted women with low cut tops. They say it only costs pennies to set up a web business and start making BIG, BIG, money. Maybe the car dealers should watch more TV early in the morning.
 
I would post more info on this but I always switch over to the "Girls Gone Wild" infomercial before I can write it down.
 
Or perhaps you could just hire sales staff that looked like these early morning babes.
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Re: Annoying things dealers do/customers do [jmonroe] by micosilver
May 10, 2008 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: jmonroe (May 10, 2008 2:24 pm)

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make unless it’s that there are strokes out there playing games. I think everyone knows that. Now, as a car dealership, if you’re going to say, “that’s why I don’t care about doing business over the internet”, that is certainly you’re choice.
 
No, that is not what I am saying at all.
What I am saying is that if you want to be taken seriously - you have to do more than choose a model and hit "Submit". I know that everybody here know exactly what they want, and the submit detailed requests with all the information, but in real life people don't do that. People will say: "I might buy in 4 months, so just give me a quote for Audi A4", and they get offended if I don't jump over and give them a detailed quote right away.
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Re: Annoying things dealers do/customers do [micosilver] by jmonroe
May 10, 2008 (5:11 pm)
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Replying to: micosilver (May 10, 2008 3:54 pm)

People will say: "I might buy in 4 months, so just give me a quote for Audi A4", and they get offended if I don't jump over and give them a detailed quote right away.
 
Ok, I got ya now. A detailed request for info should get a detailed response.
 
Now, if I were in the biz, that 4 month thing would be put on the back burner for sure. If they're fishing early they wouldn't understand how the biz/product turnover/availability at the time they might decide to buy will be and they probably can't be educated to any of this. When I started via the Internet, I made it clear to the dealer that I was buying NOW.
 
It sounds like this type of buyer shops for cars like they shop for refrigerators.
 
jmonroe

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