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#2663 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [dc_driver] by jmurman42 Aug 01, 2006 (10:12 am)
Replying to: dc_driver (Aug 01, 2006 9:04 am) The 1st Amendment is about Free Speech, but not about calling some one a Thief...at that point unless you have verifiable proof of thievery you can be sued for slander.   If you don't believe me then go to a public forum and start spouting off about Tom Cruise and his religion.   Again I'm not saying that BH isn't always above board, I don't know the dealership or the man himself and have no dog in this hunt. I am just saying that to call someone a "Thief" based on what some folks say could get 'sticky' in the legal sense.   Just because we are using the Internet and Edmunds as a Public Forum doesn't give anyone the right to just spout off dergrading names to people.   That's all I'm going to say on the subject. Replies to this message: dc_driver (Aug 01, 2006 10:27 am) mac24 (Aug 01, 2006 10:38 am)
#2664 of 47921 Re: Story for ya... [afk_x] by jipster Aug 01, 2006 (10:13 am)
Replying to: afk_x (Aug 01, 2006 7:42 am) He says well-let's show her she is paying $500 over our cost. It's our computer so I can make cost whatever I want.   Bingo! Apparently this practice is alive and well because I have been presented invoice papers before that were much higher(about $800) than what I had calculated from various sources. I stuck to my guns and the dealership came down to my price.   It sounds as if the liar was the salesmanager...not you. You were a party to the lie. But, it would not have been a good career move to tell the customer your boss had printed up a false invoice number. Would be interesting to have you go through some therapy to help you remember the traumatic "details", as yours was an interesting story.
#2665 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [jmurman42] by dc_driver Aug 01, 2006 (10:27 am)
Replying to: jmurman42 (Aug 01, 2006 10:12 am) Point taken. I do agree with you that you should not use derogatory name calling, etc. But guess what. I live just outside DC and I see picketing and protesting all the time against various religions, institutions, governments, people, and yes companies (Walmart, GM, Exxon, etc). The first amendment does protect against freedom of speech, expression, and assembly. If I can picket on public land in front of Walmart with a sign, I surely can protest a particular company on the Internet...   Okay, I am done... Replies to this message: mac24 (Aug 01, 2006 10:38 am)
#2666 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [dc_driver] by mac24 Aug 01, 2006 (10:38 am)
Replying to: dc_driver (Aug 01, 2006 10:27 am) I surely can protest a particular company on the Internet...   Unless...........Bill Heard should join us here as a member.   Then of course, under the membership agreement, we would all have to treat him with respect.
#2667 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [jmurman42] by tsgeisel Aug 01, 2006 (11:03 am)
Replying to: jmurman42 (Aug 01, 2006 5:40 am) From what I've heard and read, Bill Heard is a thief and a criminal.   There is nothing actionable in that statement, and I welcome the opportunity to prove that that's not slander.   This isn't England - the truth *is* proof against a slander lawsuit. And I can't imagine that someone who could look at those consumer complaints would think that "thief" and "criminal" aren't words that could be used, even if only as a bit of hyperbole.
#2668 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [british_rover] by tidester HOST Aug 01, 2006 (11:10 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Aug 01, 2006 9:36 am) Is that go or no go?   I didn't realize the original post contained a question.   I don't see a problem as long as what you post cannot be construed as solicitation or advertising.   tidester, host Replies to this message: british_rover (Aug 01, 2006 11:17 am)
#2669 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [tidester] by british_rover Aug 01, 2006 (11:17 am)
Replying to: tidester (Aug 01, 2006 11:10 am) No problem thank you.
#2670 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [zodiac2004] by jmonroe Aug 01, 2006 (11:59 am)
Replying to: zodiac2004 (Aug 01, 2006 9:17 am) Jmonroe, if you are correcting someone else's writing, please be correct in your own.   You obviously missed the point of what I was saying in post #2650 and I don't want to spend the time trying to explain it.   If anybody out there wants to explain, be my guest. I'm out.   Again, sorry you missed the point.   jmonroe Replies to this message: jipster (Aug 01, 2006 12:05 pm) snakeweasel (Aug 01, 2006 12:14 pm)
#2671 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [jmonroe] by jipster Aug 01, 2006 (12:05 pm)
Replying to: jmonroe (Aug 01, 2006 11:59 am) If anybody out there wants to explain...   Yeah...I got a couple minutes to explain.   It's called sarcasm. Maybe, a emotorcon would have helped convey this to zodiac. Or, maybe we can do without it?
#2672 of 47921 Re: Bill Heard is criminal all around [zodiac2004] by cluedweasel Aug 01, 2006 (12:11 pm)
Replying to: zodiac2004 (Aug 01, 2006 9:17 am) Do you hear that "whooshing" sound?

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