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Re: great point [dc_driver] by snakeweasel
Jul 31, 2006 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: dc_driver (Jul 31, 2006 1:32 pm)

Out of about 30 people I work with closely at my company, I would venture to say that 70-80% have late model low mileage vehicles right now, and I would bet most of those will not keep them more than 2-5 years
 
A couple of thousand work in my building and going through the parking lot I would say that its a pretty even spread between new to 10+ years. Even have some that date back to the 80's. Most people I personally know put at least 100K on them before the get rid of them. I know some that trade every couple of years, but thats a minority.
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Re: comparison shopping [advequityguy] by cluedweasel
Jul 31, 2006 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 31, 2006 12:33 pm)

You wouldn't believe how amny times I used to run into this one. People would go and buy more expensive cars that they didn't like as much because of bigger discounts or, more usually, rebates.
I guess it's down to the perception of a "deal". To a lot of people a large amount off the MSRP is of more value to them than resale or actually owning a car they like.
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Re: comparison shopping [advequityguy] by capitano
Jul 31, 2006 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 31, 2006 12:33 pm)

So did you say dooodge like a drawn out Dodge or dooodge with the oo sound like dude?
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Re: This is [mac24] by jack47
Jul 31, 2006 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jul 31, 2006 11:21 am)

....If I ever become rich, I doubt that I'll consider money to be worth less to me than it is now....
 
So true. I, for one, grew up in a family of four who lived in a a one bedroom walk-up apartment for many, many years.
 
Now, I'm in the top one percent of the population relative to income...and, while certainly not cheap, I watch the pennies.
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Re: comparison shopping [capitano] by advequityguy
Jul 31, 2006 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: capitano (Jul 31, 2006 1:46 pm)

OO with the wide "u" shaped symbol over it. As in "dude".
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Re: BEWARE of buying from CarMax [lemmer] by imidazol97
Jul 31, 2006 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jul 31, 2006 12:28 pm)

>nonsense.
 
????
What Carmax should have done is explain they're covering their rump by overcharging and you'll get the money back from the loan company later if you haven't bounced a payment or skipped the last payment. A little explanation would go a a long way. I'd react the same way and wouldn't go back, after I let them know what I'd caught them doing.
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Re: This is [british_rover] by mazda6iguy
Jul 31, 2006 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 31, 2006 8:31 am)

british_rover...
 
Would you say that the image that some people have about Range Rover has changed since Ford bought them out?
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Re: This is [mac24] by mazda6iguy
Jul 31, 2006 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jul 31, 2006 11:21 am)

I'm funny when it comes to money, especially mine, and I'm not rich. I would think that it's even more important to a person when paying cash. An extra $100 might be justified as just a few cents more a month when buying on credit, but it's a real $100 when paying cash. You get the same amount of goods or services for $100 whether you're rich or poor.
 
I have a friend who is hoping to scrape enough money together for a new Base Cobalt, and hopes to trade in her 1994 Cavalier. She counts every dollar like it is her last, so to her she is 'funny' when it comes to her money.
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Re: This is [mazda6iguy] by mark156
Jul 31, 2006 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: mazda6iguy (Jul 31, 2006 4:55 pm)

Would you say that the image that some people have about Range Rover has changed since Ford bought them out?
 
mazda6guy... I don't know what British_Rover will say but it made a difference for me when I decided to buy a Land Rover (2006 LR3 HSE). I figured that the quality would be better than in the past which it appears to be true. I have had not one bit of trouble with mine in 8 months of ownership.
 
I have never owned a Land Rover before and traded in my 2002 Mercedes ML500 for it and I'm very pleased.
 
Mark156
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Bill Heard is criminal all around by roundtrip
Jul 31, 2006 (6:19 pm)
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After reading about 30+ of the most stomach-churning stories of people being criminally taken advantage of, I noticed that the dealerships failed in five areas.
 
1. Sales people who lack the basic social skills of a monkey.
 
2. Misleading advertising (radio in particular) that offers set amounts for any car pushed, pulled, or towed in. However, salespeople pretend to not know about the ad, or they claim it applies to something other than what the buyer has. Under normal circumstances, these types of misunderstandings happen. BH takes it to another level, calling customers liars when they repeat the ad they've heard.
 
3. Taking trade-ins but failing to pay them off in a timely manner or at all (wrecking havoc with credit.) Buyers may end up not having a new car as financing falls through and new car is taken back. Then they have their old car repossessed because 1-2 monthly payments have not been made. Sometimes they don't even bother to change the trade-in's title over, but sell it to someone else anyway. Then the new buyer has a big hassle.
 
***4. Used cars that are advertised as new (mileage recorded incorrectly and sent to DMV; MSRP sheets not posted on "new" cars; cars previously titled that are sold as new; huge mileage cars sold as demos.)
 
***5. Deceptive financing practices (offers to approve anyone and then blaming their non-approval on the buyer's already disclosed bad credit; "done deals" with signed contracts & cars taken possession of >before actual approval for finance) They have truely raised this to a new art form by manipulating and falsifying credit appl. info. to get pre-approval. The funny thing is that the credit co. sometimes calls the buyer to verify the info. I guess BH expects the buyer to keep up the lie.
 
These "oopsies and misunderstandings" have to be approved of by management. I bet they are even teaching these tricks in training. Yet due to overburdened state attorney generals and signed arbitration contracts, very little is done. All I could find were fines paid to the state, none to individuals.
 
And still, they sell thousands and thousands of cars a year!

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