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Re: former car salesman [bruiseraex] by mackabee
Mar 02, 2008 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: bruiseraex (Mar 02, 2008 3:15 pm)

Good answer. Thanks I appreciate your honesty. It reminds me of our first Camry purchase. The first dealer we went to had the car we wanted at the price we wanted to pay. I was ready to write the check but first asked to see a breakdown of the total price. When the salesperson came back with the buyer's order there were quite a few extraneous charges that he could not explain. I asked him to get his manager and have him explain. He introduced me to a young man around late twenties or early thirties. He claimed to be the owner's son but looked more like John Travolta on SNF with lots of bling bling. He came over and told me since they were selling me the car so cheap (it was about 800 over invoice and back in 1991) that he had to make his money elsewhere. That to me was an insult and we walked out. I felt bad for the salesman as he was nice and never pre-qualed or pushed us. He ran out to our van to get the buyer's order back as I had walked with it. I told him his SM lost the sale for him. "He might as well asked for my wallet and taken my money." I told him. Later that evening during dinner I spoke to a lady that my oldest son (11) had spoken to. He had spoken to her while watching his two younger brothers while mom and dad went car shopping. He wrote it in a memorandum notepad that I used in the navy and had all the figures laid out for me to see. After speaking to the lady and making a deal over the phone, the salesman from the morning called and asked me if I was still interested in a car. "You're a little late, I already made a deal and we're picking the car up in an hour. I'm sorry, I would have liked to buy the car from you but like I told you back there he blew the sale for you." Last time I heard he went to work for UPS.
No not customers on the lot but the delivery company.
 Mack
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [jmonroe] by isellhondas
Mar 03, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Mar 02, 2008 7:03 pm)

I'm just surprised that anyone loans out tools.
 
It's not as easy being a do it yourselfer as it used to be!
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [isellhondas by british_rover
Mar 03, 2008 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 03, 2008 6:36 am)

Most advanced auto parts or Autozone places around here will loan out tools for a refundable deposit.
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [isellhondas] by jmonroe
Mar 03, 2008 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 03, 2008 6:36 am)

I'm just surprised that anyone loans out tools.
 
It almost makes you think that the auto parts are out to get the dealers service dept.
 
With the tool it was really easy. Without the tool someone would be running to the dealer to have the brake job done which would have included replacing the boot. A lot more bucks when you try to force something.
 
rover is right about the loaning of tools. My Son went to Advance for his pads (he bought Bendix not the store brand) but he was still entitled to free use of the tool kit.
 
jmonroe
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Re: What do you think will happen? [oldfarmer50] by mattandi
Mar 03, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Feb 29, 2008 3:40 pm)

A couple of months ago we were traveling to Wilmington NC to visit my sister's family and attend a family event. I am driving and we pull into a rest stop to change drivers. As we pulled in, we hear a muffled pop, the compression obviously drops, followed by a loud noise from under the hood. Pull over and stop. Very rough idle and that loud noise. The service engine soon light comes on. (well DUH!) This is on a stretch of I40 in the middle of nowhere.
 
Leave it running and pop the hood. Problem quickly apparent. The EGR valve has broken and is dangling behind the engine. This particular valve is an assembly held together by three bolts. All three bolts are broken. The engine runs without it, just not very well. All I have with me is an emergency kit that has a screwdriver, a pair of pliers, and a lug wrench. I open the kit for a look anyway. Hey, there is a roll of black electrical tape. I surveyed the situation. Yes, I think this just might work.
 
Waited about thirty minutes for things to cool off. I wrapped that sucker with that entire roll of tape back in place on the exhaust manifold. Ran a little rough, the gas mileage was horrible, but it got us the last eighty miles to Wilmington. Had to wait until Monday to get a new valve. Ten minute replacement. Had the vacuum lines checked when we got home. All ok.
 
Tape. Don't leave home without it.
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [isellhondas by mackabee
Mar 03, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 03, 2008 6:36 am)

Yep they do. But don't let your kids use them. They never put them back where they belong. I installed a cd player yesterday and what should have been a 30 minute job turned into 4 hours because of lack of tools. I was not a happy camper after I got done.
 
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [isellhondas] by roadburner
Mar 03, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 03, 2008 6:36 am)

I'm just surprised that anyone loans out tools.
 
In my high school days a couple of my friends and I hung out/worked at a local Gulf service station. We found out that one of the pump jockeys at the Chevron station up the road had loaned a guy a commercial 2.5 ton floor jack for a $15 cash deposit. Needless to say, that place never saw the floor jack again. When things were slow we'd call the Chevron station and ask the owner if he had any more of those $15 floor jacks for sale. He'd let fly with a burst of profanity that would leave us all in stitches.
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Re: What do you think will happen? [mattandi] by jmonroe
Mar 03, 2008 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: mattandi (Mar 03, 2008 7:35 am)

The EGR valve has broken and is dangling behind the engine. This particular valve is an assembly held together by three bolts. All three bolts are broken.
 
Years ago, on my way to work, I had the 3/8 inch vacuum line break, about 2 inches from the base of the 4 barrel carb on a GM 350 V8, that was connected to the PCV valve on the other end. The car ran extremely rough and sounded like a Kirby vacuum cleaner. If I didn’t put it in neutral and push the accelerator at stop signs and lights, it would stall. After work I opened the trunk to get some tape but somehow there wasn’t any in my trunk tool box. Rather than go back into the building and get some tape, I ripped a piece of a rag that I had and stuffed it into the piece of hose still attached to the carb. The car didn’t even rough idle a little bit. A fellow worker that was watching said, “where did you learn that trick”? I said, “to be honest with you I just thought of it but I’ll bet I’m not the only one that ever did this. I’m just too lazy to go back into the building to get some tape out of the secretary’s desk”.
 
Tape. Don't leave home without it.
 
Duck tape is great for repairing a split radiator hose. I kept a duck tape repaired hose in the trunk of my car as a spare. Good thing I did. A couple years later I had a hose that almost exploded. No amount of tape was going to fix that hose, so I used the spare duck tape repaired hose for that roadside job. Water, oh yeah, I always carry around a couple Prestone jugs filled with the stuff. You just never know when the car is going to get thirsty.
 
jmonroe
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [jmonroe] by isellhondas
Mar 03, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Mar 03, 2008 7:12 am)

We don't have either of those stores in my area.
 
I'm still surprised. After nearly 20 years in the tool business lending a tool is almost unheard of. I guess it's working for the stores that do.
 
It's not uncommon for a well equipped tech to have 40,000 or more invested in their personal tools.
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Re: I’m still a believer in having the right tool for the job. [isellhondas] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 03, 2008 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 03, 2008 1:05 pm)

The tool lenders are auto parts stores.. not auto repair facilities...
 
That's how they get people to buy the parts.. An auto repair facility would put themselves out of business, if they did that..
 
Plus, without loaning tools, they'd never sell a MacPherson strut...

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