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Re: Is this REMOTELY possible? [prosa] by dino001
Jul 30, 2006 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: prosa (Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm)

There is no way. It might be possible at a sole dealership on a small island when those who step in are taken hostage (literally), or after pictures of their children shown, and some guy speaking with a heavy accent offered to pick them from school in their new Caravan
 
Just imagine how many "just checking" the new model (as for the reference) with no intention of buying whatsoever and you get the picture.
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Re: Is this REMOTELY possible? [prosa] by jmonroe
Jul 31, 2006 (4:50 am)
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Replying to: prosa (Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm)

What really got my attention was the Dodge salesman's claim that "90%" of the customers who walk into the showroom end up buying a car from the dealership.
 
Consider the sources, they can't even be honest with themselves. What do you think your chances are when you talk/deal with them ?
 
jmonroe
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Re: my 2 cents [cluedweasel] by snakeweasel
Jul 31, 2006 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: cluedweasel (Jul 30, 2006 11:57 am)

OK thats fine, I know that many people have different opinions of what constitutes a large metro area. As someone who lives in a metro area that has close to a 10,000,000 population I have a different opinion on that than some of my friends who live down state. What they would consider quite large I would consider rather small. I mean we have suburbs with more than 100,000 population.
 
Anyways all that means is I have a short drive to anyone of several different dealers of any make. Even dealerships of the more hard to find variety (there is a Panoz dealership about 40 minutes from me). There are even several places where most makes are represented within a short walking distance of each other.
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Re: This is [snakeweasel] by dglozman
Jul 31, 2006 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 28, 2006 9:53 am)

not every person may know what is the reasonable price for a Range Rover (or for any car). If you do not read any websites or do not do any research what so ever, you just saw one on the street and like it (....."oh nice track! Who makes it? It says on the back Range Rover... Oh I saw one on Discovery channel the other day! Lets go to the dealership and buy one!"....) you do not have any idea what is the real price is. 99% of the time those kind of people will OVERPAY for the car!
 
Its reminds me when we decided to buy a piano for our daughter. I had and (still have) no idea what is the street price for various type of pianos. I never did any research. I just walked into the store and got the one that was on sale. I still do not know if I was taken for a ride or got the steal...
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Re: This is [dglozman] by snakeweasel
Jul 31, 2006 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: dglozman (Jul 31, 2006 5:45 am)

In a case like this its not what everyone knows, but what a reasonable person would suspect. So saying not everyone may know what is a reasonable price doesn't work. Reasonably someone should have a decent ideal what a price is (not the exact price but an ideal of what it is). That is why they use the term "obvious mistake".
 
So if someone who has no ideal what a Land Rover costs goes into a Land Rover dealership and buys a Land Rover for $27K and it was a mistake and it should have been $72K then the contract is void because of an obvious mistake. It doesn't matter if the buyer knew it was a mistake, what matters is if a reasonable person would know. In this case a reasonable person should know that it is a mistake.
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Re: This is [snakeweasel] by dglozman
Jul 31, 2006 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 31, 2006 6:19 am)

I still disagree with you. I consider myself a reasonable person, but I do not know prices for everything, and I do not research prices for everything I buy. And if I walk into the dealership and agree on the asking price that was singed and approved by the manager, I expect this contract to be honored.
To be honest with you, when I look at Range Rover cars on the street they do not look like $72,000 cars to me.. They look like a fancy Ford Explorers... So if one would be offered to me at $27,000 I would not be shocked or exited thinking I'm getting a greatest deal in the world...
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Re: This is [dglozman] by british_rover
Jul 31, 2006 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: dglozman (Jul 31, 2006 6:47 am)

You must have never seen a 2003-2006 Range Rover up close in personal then or you would realize how uninformed that statement is.
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Re: This is [dglozman] by jmonroe
Jul 31, 2006 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: dglozman (Jul 31, 2006 5:45 am)

...not every person may know what is the reasonable price for a Range Rover (or for any car). If you do not read any websites or do not do any research what so ever...
 
This is like saying 'ignorance of the law IS an excuse' but we all know and more importantly the courts rule that it isn't.
 
jmonroe
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Re: This is [british_rover] by dglozman
Jul 31, 2006 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 31, 2006 6:51 am)

No I saw them, in fact my next door neighbor has one. But what I'm trying to say that different things have different value to different people. So they might look nice, but to me they not worth $72,000...
 
I live outside of New York city were apartment prices (in Manhattan) are around 1 mil. But for me - they have to pay me 1 mil for me to even consider to live in Manhattan.. Like I said - different value to different people.
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Re: This is [jmonroe] by dglozman
Jul 31, 2006 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jul 31, 2006 6:56 am)

the contract was signed and approved by both parties. Delivery was taken. THIS should be matter to the law , and not what other might think what is the reasonable price should be.
 
Have you ever heard stories about people buying priceless stuff at flea markets and garage sales?

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