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Re: my 2 cents [cluedweasel] by snakeweasel
Jul 30, 2006 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: cluedweasel (Jul 30, 2006 10:59 am)

On the Bill Heard thing, why does Chevrolet still have them as a franchisee? I would have thought the negative publicity would lead them to pull the plug. Maybe sales numbers count for more than customer service?
 
Bingo its the sales, As long as their sales numbers are good Chevy won't do much. Remember that the bad press is against the dealer not Chevy.
 
Also since you say you're 130 miles away from any large metro area could you please define what you would call a large metro area?
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Re: my 2 cents [snakeweasel] by cluedweasel
Jul 30, 2006 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 30, 2006 11:31 am)

In my opinion, a large metro area would be somewhere with a high population (100,000+), large businesses and choices on where to buy items.
Currently, I live in Bend, Oregon. The nearest metro area to use would be either Eugene (129 miles) or Portland (162 miles). Both are across the mountains on two lane roads. As far as car dealerships go, we have all the standard makes (except for Saturn) spread around four dealerships. We also have a BMW/VW/Audi and Porsche dealer (all those under one roof!), a Subaru/Kia/Hyundai dealer and an M-B place. Want a Lexus, Jag, Infiniti, Acura, Saab, Saturn, the it's off to Portland.
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Is this REMOTELY possible? by prosa
Jul 30, 2006 (2:46 pm)
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I was at the gym last night, resting between sets, when I overheard two other members talking about selling cars. The older of the two I know to be a salesman at a local Dodge dealership, while the younger man - as best I could understand from what I overheard - just recently started in sales at a different dealership, I don't know what brand(s).
What really got my attention was the Dodge salesman's claim that "90%" of the customers who walk into the showroom end up buying a car from the dealership. I'm almost certain I heard that correctly, though to be sure I wouldn't swear to it under oath. Is such a hugely high percentage at all possible? Or did I somehow mishear it?
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Re: Is this REMOTELY possible? [prosa] by capitano
Jul 30, 2006 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: prosa (Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm)

I'd say no.
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Re: Is this REMOTELY possible? [prosa] by explorerx4
Jul 30, 2006 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: prosa (Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm)

doesn't mean they don't visit more than 1 showroom before buying.
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Re: Is this REMOTELY possible? [prosa] by dino001
Jul 30, 2006 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: prosa (Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm)

There is no way. It might be possible at a sole dealership on a small island when those who step in are taken hostage (literally), or after pictures of their children shown, and some guy speaking with a heavy accent offered to pick them from school in their new Caravan
 
Just imagine how many "just checking" the new model (as for the reference) with no intention of buying whatsoever and you get the picture.
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Re: Is this REMOTELY possible? [prosa] by jmonroe
Jul 31, 2006 (4:50 am)
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Replying to: prosa (Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm)

What really got my attention was the Dodge salesman's claim that "90%" of the customers who walk into the showroom end up buying a car from the dealership.
 
Consider the sources, they can't even be honest with themselves. What do you think your chances are when you talk/deal with them ?
 
jmonroe
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Re: my 2 cents [cluedweasel] by snakeweasel
Jul 31, 2006 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: cluedweasel (Jul 30, 2006 11:57 am)

OK thats fine, I know that many people have different opinions of what constitutes a large metro area. As someone who lives in a metro area that has close to a 10,000,000 population I have a different opinion on that than some of my friends who live down state. What they would consider quite large I would consider rather small. I mean we have suburbs with more than 100,000 population.
 
Anyways all that means is I have a short drive to anyone of several different dealers of any make. Even dealerships of the more hard to find variety (there is a Panoz dealership about 40 minutes from me). There are even several places where most makes are represented within a short walking distance of each other.
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Re: This is [snakeweasel] by dglozman
Jul 31, 2006 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 28, 2006 9:53 am)

not every person may know what is the reasonable price for a Range Rover (or for any car). If you do not read any websites or do not do any research what so ever, you just saw one on the street and like it (....."oh nice track! Who makes it? It says on the back Range Rover... Oh I saw one on Discovery channel the other day! Lets go to the dealership and buy one!"....) you do not have any idea what is the real price is. 99% of the time those kind of people will OVERPAY for the car!
 
Its reminds me when we decided to buy a piano for our daughter. I had and (still have) no idea what is the street price for various type of pianos. I never did any research. I just walked into the store and got the one that was on sale. I still do not know if I was taken for a ride or got the steal...
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Re: This is [dglozman] by snakeweasel
Jul 31, 2006 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: dglozman (Jul 31, 2006 5:45 am)

In a case like this its not what everyone knows, but what a reasonable person would suspect. So saying not everyone may know what is a reasonable price doesn't work. Reasonably someone should have a decent ideal what a price is (not the exact price but an ideal of what it is). That is why they use the term "obvious mistake".
 
So if someone who has no ideal what a Land Rover costs goes into a Land Rover dealership and buys a Land Rover for $27K and it was a mistake and it should have been $72K then the contract is void because of an obvious mistake. It doesn't matter if the buyer knew it was a mistake, what matters is if a reasonable person would know. In this case a reasonable person should know that it is a mistake.

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