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Re: Lost Sale [chikoo] by bryan
Jul 24, 2006 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: chikoo (Jul 22, 2006 10:20 am)

Never? Well, maybe hardly ever I asked for a 25% on the spot "discount" for a piece of expensive clothing at Macy's a few years ago. This particular garment had been on the selling floor for about one day. I asked the salesperson; she asked her manager and I purchased the garment at the discounted price I asked for.
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How far are you willing to go for the sale? by toyotamover
Jul 24, 2006 (9:30 am)
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Here's the scenario...
 
Customer walks in and you can tell within 5 minutes of qualifying that you will probably sell them a car. The problem is this is one of those customers that are very analytical, very picky (the type that will complain over the very smallest details of the car or the deal), over researched etc... You know you will sell them but won't make much more than a mini, nothing in F&I and that you will probably be living with them before and after the sale. If you been in the biz for a while you know what I am talking about. The customer that will take hours and hours of your time for little reward compared to the full lister that that you spend an hour with and they bring you home baked cookies the next day as a thank you.
 
Do you go for the deal or do you back off and let them walk maybe purposely quoting them a high price or just not trying?
 
Curious about this... I've gone back and forth with this question in my 15 years working at a high volume Toyota dealership. You want every deal but what's the limit. My answer is that I will sell them if I really really need the deal (EOM for a bonus etc...) Otherwise I cut bait and look for something better that won't end up costing me money in the long run by being off the floor.
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Re: OMG... [british_rover] by mazda6iguy
Jul 24, 2006 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 22, 2006 3:18 pm)

Every time I see one of those Commander commercials where they say, "The Jeep Commander the most capable Seven passenger SUV ever," I just laugh. The approach and departure angles on the Commander are horrible. A Disco would stomp a Commander offroad and a LR3 would just embarrass that trail rated badge right off the back liftgate.
 
At the auto show, there was a torture track set up that a bunch of different Jeep models went around. It looked like the Commander did a fine job, but I'm sure would not hold up to the Range rover track.
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Re: OMG... [mazda6iguy] by tamaraster
Jul 24, 2006 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: mazda6iguy (Jul 24, 2006 9:44 am)

What I don't get about the rovers is, if they are supposed to be good for off-roading, safaris, and that type of thing, why are they so trouble-prone? It seems like it would be really inconvenient to be stuck in the wilderness with a broken vehicle that's fussy and difficult to repair.
 
Or am I just mistaken about that?
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Re: Hidden trades etc. [dwilliam] by zodiac2004
Jul 24, 2006 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: dwilliam (Jul 14, 2006 5:55 am)

If everyone stopped buying cars right now and waited until their CURRENT car was paid off: most dealers would file backruptcy, the state and local gov'ts would not get anywhere NEAR the revenue they normally acheive and by the time they normalized they will have raised all other taxes to compensate.
 
Sheesh.... Are we sensing some ATTITUDE?
 
You are right in your analysis, of course.
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Re: Hidden trades etc. [mark156] by zodiac2004
Jul 24, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: mark156 (Jul 14, 2006 7:49 am)

Dwilliam. I have to agree with snake on this. As a degreed Accountant myself, he is making total sense.
  
Keep in mind, if folks keep there cars until they are paid off, they will need continued service, parts, etc at the dealership. So, if the dealer was losing a little out front, they are going to pick it up out back.
  
There are so many types of buyers that I think everything would fall into place. A person leasing ever two years, in a sense, has a paid off car and is ready for another

 
I'm a little late to this party, but here goes..
 
Dwilliam's point: If people keep cars until they have positive equity, overall tax revenue would significantly reduce for the government.
 
Mark/Snake's point: Not so.
 
Now maybe snake's professor got the Nobel prize for his economic theory, but it's obvious that in general, if people started living within their means, the great state of the USA can only support about 1/2 the jobs it currently does.
It's gluttonous consumption that keeps the economy afloat.
(Maybe the professor got the Noble prize (not Nobel) )
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Re: How far are you willing to go for the sale? [toyotamover] by mac24
Jul 24, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: toyotamover (Jul 24, 2006 9:30 am)

I will sell them if I really really need the deal (EOM for a bonus etc...) Otherwise I cut bait and look for something better that won't end up costing me money in the long run by being off the floor.
 
It's not the PC answer, but I'd do the same as you. Sometimes a bird in the hand isn't worth two in the bush!
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Re: How far are you willing to go for the sale? [toyotamover] by theflush
Jul 24, 2006 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: toyotamover (Jul 24, 2006 9:30 am)

Why does it take you more than 5 minutes to offer a price that will result in a "mini"? Who said you had to take hours of time dealing with this type of person? If this customer has overresearched, he will know right away that you made a great offer and that he can not get you to lower it much further.
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Re: How far are you willing to go for the sale? [theflush] by dc_driver
Jul 24, 2006 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: theflush (Jul 24, 2006 10:29 am)

"Why does it take you more than 5 minutes to offer a price that will result in a "mini"? Who said you had to take hours of time dealing with this type of person? If this customer has overresearched, he will know right away that you made a great offer and that he can not get you to lower it much further"
 
You took the words out of my mouth.. Including the test drive, I was in and out of my last deal in just under an hour and a half. Salesman spent maybe 45 minutes to an hour with me... Even if the guy only made $100 on the deal, that is not bad for 1 hour worth the work... BTW, I am one of those people who research the crap out of a car and have a good idea on the numbers and what number I am looking for. Although I usually work mostly with the Internet sales department...
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Re: How far are you willing to go for the sale? [toyotamover] by tsgeisel
Jul 24, 2006 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: toyotamover (Jul 24, 2006 9:30 am)

How can you tell what customer you'll be able to sell a car to?
 
When I was doing the other commission sales job, I would have loved to figure out how to determine that. Because I had my fair share of enthusiastic folks who were essentially just yanking my chain, unenthusiastic folks who wound up buying, and, of course, a few people for whom I just lost the sale somehow.
 
But nobody I ever worked with could say for certain "This person *will* buy", although it was much easier to learn who *wouldn't* buy.
 
Talk to everyone; that's my theory.

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