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Replying to: sc00bs (Jul 22, 2006 4:57 pm) The minute that salesman started making smart remarks about mentally handicapped kids...you should have IMMEDIATLY turned that van around, went back to the dealership, told the GM or whomever and walked out of that place. It's a good thing it wasn't me driving that van. Nortsr1
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 22, 2006 3:18 pm) What percentage do you think are driven off a paved road in their first few years of ownership? |
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Replying to: garandman (Jul 23, 2006 4:22 am) I would say more than it would be for a Land Rover, still real small though.
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Replying to: mark156 (Jul 22, 2006 10:20 pm) I understand that buying a car, or anything is different than this situation, but it had enough of an impact on me for me to choose to only do business with people I felt I could trust. That being said, I still haggle for the best price, but since at this time, I only buy Ford products, it is easy for me to establish a relationship with a dealership. Now, does it cost me a few hunderud dollars for this each time I buy a car, yes. But I do not buy cars often enough for this to bother me. That is just my 2 cents
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 23, 2006 6:19 am) Land Rover dealers are required to sponsor off-road driving events at least twice a year and two non-off-road events, these basicly turn into cocktail parties at the dealership or some other location, we have proffesional driving instructors come out and then the staff acts as spoters/instructors as well. Our last off road event was great we had it at http://www.overlandexperts.com/. We rented out the facility for the day and about thirty people there in many different rovers. Everything from a 1995 Series one disco that was one guys off-road toy with lots of mods, a 1997 Defender with almost no miles and two ARB air locking diffs and then a bunch of stock Discos and LR3s plus some bone stock Range Rovers. One of the guys there brought his whole family in the LR3 they bought just two months before. He had about 1,500 miles on it. The highest mileage truck there was a 1998 Range Rover 4.0SE with about 110,000 miles on it.
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 22, 2006 4:33 pm) The progression of vehicles from easiest to hardest kind of goes like this. LR3 is the easiest rover to take across the course. You can choose just about any line you want and you will be fine. In low range with terrain response set to rock crawl I could do the course blindfolded just by feel and memory. The Range Rover is almost as easy as the LR3 and when Terrain response is avaliable for 2007 the Range Rover will once again by completly domminant over the LR3/Disco. The Range Rover has so much ground clearance you don't even need to raise the air suspension to off-road mode. |
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Replying to: cluedweasel (Jul 22, 2006 11:29 pm) Mark 
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 23, 2006 7:07 am) Land Rover dealers are required to sponsor off-road driving events at least twice a year and two non-off-road events, these basicly turn into cocktail parties at the dealership or some other location, we have proffesional driving instructors come out and then the staff acts as spoters/instructors as well. Our last off road event was great we had it at http://www.overlandexperts.com/. We rented out the facility for the day and about thirty people there in many different rovers. Everything from a 1995 Series one disco that was one guys off-road toy with lots of mods, a 1997 Defender with almost no miles and two ARB air locking diffs and then a bunch of stock Discos and LR3s plus some bone stock Range Rovers. I see - so you've only sold 150 Land Rovers in the last five years? Where do you get the information supporting 20% offroad use in the US? I'd suspect it's less than 5% like everyone else. Dirt roads are not off road. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 23, 2006 7:07 am) |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 22, 2006 1:01 pm) For simplicity's sake, let's say that the dealership makes the initial offer of $29K for that $30K MSRP car they've got. I've already determined that the price I'll buy at is $27K, plus I want the floor mats thrown in. Using a "bobst" hybrid method, I'd probably walk after thanking them for their time. This is predicated on my telling the dealership I'm in the market right now and will only make one offer. If I go in and make the only offer of $27K, plus floormats, they say yes or no (usually try to bump me, but I always remind them that I'm only going to make one offer). So, whether they make the first offer, or I do, my number (offer) doesn't change.
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