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Replying to: WorkingManEsq (Feb 16, 2009 10:37 am) • Better gas mileage • Higher towing capability (3500 vs 2400) • Uses regular gas • Oil changes likely 7500 miles vs 3500 miles of the Subie turbo • Rav4 has a full-size spare tire. I know this year they're offering a RAV4 without the door-mounted spare, and I believe that model has run-flat tires and no spare, but I'm not sure. • The RAV4 has a 5-speed automatic, whereas the Forester still has a 4-speed automatic. I do prefer the full-time AWD of the Subie. The new RAV4s have a part-time, on-demand AWD. I also prefer the Forester's styling and interior. I've driven both the RAV4 V6 and the Forester turbo, and they're both quick. Bob
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If the CRV isn't powerful enough for you, you may want to consider the new 2.5 I4 in the 2009 RAV. Better gas mileage than the CRV and more power. 179 hp as Toyota added an exhaust valve, used new friction cutting technology in the engine, and reworked the transmission. Result over the old 2.4L I4 is 13 more hp and 12.8% increase if fuel economy. I was seriously considering the V6 in the RAV but after just redriving both, my wife and I are springing for the I4. The V6 is a hot rod but we find the I4 worked fine for us even in the mountains. Drive them all, see what you think. |
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| My wife 07 RAV4 i4 is slow in picking up speed from ramp into the freeway traffic but cruising is pretty good. Maybe because I drive 08 Pilot 3.5L, thus the difference. | |
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Considering Forrester XTL, RAV4 (6cyl), CRV and OB 3.0. Am in the midst of learning vehicles and was comforted by posts here which address many same issues wifey and i (and 2 kids, ages 5 and 9) have with choice. All are excellent vehicles and have their various dis/advantages, some thoughts/questions: I like the OB 3.0: good AWD system, alth mpg may suffer, but does it really suffer that much considering it is always there as opposed to wonder if it will come on when i would like to have it there and then go off when I exceed 25 mph, like the RAV4 which gets about 3 mpg more on avg. I beleive I understand fundamentals of FW 4WD (that the vehicle runs as FWD until it senses slippage at which time power is directed to rear) but that is all I have been able to discern from the brochure or sales staff (who are reluctant to show me a manual), some questions: I like the continued high quality and reliability of Toyota and Honda (alth Sub appears to come real close to them both), but re RAV4: 1. once the front wheels slip, how immediate is the transfer of power to the rear? 2. If I know in advance that I will want to run in 4WD, can I opt in advance to engage the 4WD? 3. If I so opt, will the 4WD still auto disengage at 25 mph or does the 4WD lock allow me to run in 4WD above 25 mph anmd or when the front wheels do not sense slippage? 4. Are the EPA estimates based upon FWD operation of the vehicle and are the estimates affected by use of the 4WD? Both Forrester and RAV4 appear to be roomy enough; appears that 2010 OB will address rear seat space and window frame issues (which both bother us), but does anyone know if the changes will amount to a new generation as i am hesitant to buy first year of a new generatn - or sh I be here? Thank you in advance for any info/thoughts.
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Replying to: rfrf (Feb 17, 2009 7:43 am) |
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Replying to: rsholland (Feb 16, 2009 1:22 pm) A light on the dash actually comes on calling for service, and you have to use the odometer to reset it. After the issues with sludge on the old 3.0l V6 Toyota got smart and put that reminder front and center. Our Forester is 3750 under Schedule A or 7500 under Schedule B, though most people fall under A. I like the 5000 interval only because it's easy to recall - 5, 10, 15. On the Forester our 3rd change would be at 11,250 miles, how am I going to remember that?
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 19, 2009 9:36 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 19, 2009 9:38 am) |
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Concerning the AWD systems of each vehicle, I would rate them as follows: 1. Forester 2. RAV4 3. CRV *one interesting sidenote to the RAV's system that I like is you can engage the 4wd system with the push of a button that will produce a 55% front wheel power and 45% rear wheel power that is constant until the vehicle reaches 25 mph, at which time the 4wd system kicks out into the regular AWD system. |
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*one interesting sidenote to the RAV's system that I like is you can engage the 4wd system with the push of a button that will produce a 55% front wheel power and 45% rear wheel power that is constant until the vehicle reaches 25 mph, at which time the 4wd system kicks out into the regular AWD system. My guess is that it kicks at 25 mph out to become FWD, not AWD. I believe the new RAV4 has an on-demand AWD, meaning that it is FWD until it senses tire slippage, then the rear wheels kick in. So, reverting back to FWD (not AWD) at 25 mph, make more sense. Bob
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