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Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4 or Subaru Forester?

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Re: [rengaw] by ateixeira
Feb 09, 2009 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: rengaw (Feb 08, 2009 12:52 am)

The 2GR V6 is a great engine, I have the same one in my Sienna.
 
Getting the V6 also gets you a 5 speed auto, but I'm not sure you'll like the transmission as much as you liked the 4 speed auto in the 4 banger, because it hesitates and lags a bit.
 
I'm glad they updated the 4 banger because the V6 sort of made the prior 4 cylinder moot.
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Re: [ateixeira] by rengaw
Feb 09, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 09, 2009 10:09 am)

I was sure I was going to buy the new 2009 Forester, but I got won over to the 2009 RAV4 primarily because of their power plants. The 2.5L, I4, with more power and better fuel economy than in previous years and the 3.5 V6 with the 5 speed tranny just wouldn't let go of me. I am now torn between the two motors, one day wanting one and the next day the other. I am presently leaning toward the V6, but the fact that the new 2.5L I4 has cut it's fuel consumption by another 2 mpg over the V6 is impressive. I believe in mixed driving you may be talking about a 3 to 4 mile per gallon difference. On the highway, which is how we drive 75% of the time, the margin would be closer.
 
I was wondering, Juice, what kind of mpg you are getting with your van? And what would the weight difference be comparing the van to the RAV with the V6. I believe the RAV4 goes something like 3700lbs.
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Re: [rengaw] by oregonboy
Feb 09, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: rengaw (Feb 09, 2009 7:32 pm)

The Rav has a lot going for it, but it's auto-trannie only, and that's a non-starter for me. Of course, that's a non-issue for most people.
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Re: [rengaw] by kkrtrek
Feb 09, 2009 (9:17 pm)
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Replying to: rengaw (Feb 09, 2009 7:32 pm)

rengaw,
 
Seems like our experiences have been identical. We were 99% set on the Forester, and then the new RAV came out. Last year, the four-cylinder just did not do enough for me, either in terms of mileage or "peppiness." I didn't want the 6, so I moved on to the Forester. When the new, larger 4-cylinder came out in the RAV, I just had to try it--and I really liked it. So we got ourselves one last month.
 
I'd say there is no "need" for the V6, unless you are towing regularly. If you are doing mostly highway, then the benefit of the I4 is pretty modest, except for the lower upfront cost...But you already know all this. Good luck in your choice.
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Re: [rengaw] by ateixeira
Feb 10, 2009 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: rengaw (Feb 09, 2009 7:32 pm)

The Sienna has tall gearing so highway mileage can be quite good - I've broken 30mpg but that's with speeds below 60mph or so.
 
My average is usually anywhere from 22 to 28 mpg or so. Not bad considering it's always hauling people or cargo or both. Mileage drops considerably if you punch it, but then again it can be a lot higher if you're a hyper-miler. YMMV.
 
I'll say this - the V6 has way more than enough power for this van, I can't imagine how it would feel in the lighter RAV4. You may actually complain about substantial torque steer, especially if you get a FWD RAV4. You may even prefer the I-4 if you get FWD.
 
My van is about 4300 lbs, a FWD LE 8 passenger model. You sure the RAV4 is that light? AWD V6?
 
Our Forester does a bit better, but it's AWD and a 4 cylinder PZEV model. I've seen anywhere from 23mpg up to 33mpg, again that would be keeping speeds down. Overall it gets a couple of mpg better than the van, plus it's AWD, but the van is much bigger, too.
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Re: [ateixeira] by rengaw
Feb 10, 2009 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 10, 2009 11:44 am)

That is impressive mpg on that Sienna, Juice, considering the weight it is hauling with such good power. We have a 1999 Sienna with the 3.0 V6, which is smaller and lighter than yours, and we can't come up to your numbers even with conservative driving.
 
     I asked a salesman at the local Toyota dealer last week what the number one complaint on the V6 RAV was. He said torque steer on the FWD model.
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Re: [rengaw] by ateixeira
Feb 11, 2009 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: rengaw (Feb 10, 2009 7:12 pm)

Yeah, my Sienna definitely has torque steer, but it's van so you don't often floor the throttle. I wanted the power to haul heavy loads, not the other type of hauling.
 
I drove from Florida to DC with 6 people and luggage, but all that weight and higher speeds (my dad hit 90mph at one point, whoa) than usual hurt my numbers. I still managed 24mpg.
 
My sister drove my dad's Outback and they got slightly better mileage, but they were also carrying less weight (2 people and luggage). I think they got about 27mpg.
 
Thing is, the gas tank in the Outback is much smaller (16.9 gal vs. 21), so that's what limited our range.
 
How big is the RAV4's tank? I think it's smaller than the Forester and Outback (both 16.9 gal).
 
That might limit range. I hate having to stop for gas. One time we were running on empty and had to stop, and ended up seeing gas 30 cents cheaper less than an hour later. If the small gas tank had not forced us to stop, we would have paid far less for gas.
 
That may be a reason to go with the I-4.
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RAV4 I-4 by bigdadi118
Feb 13, 2009 (9:12 am)
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My wife 07 Rav4 4 cyc is kind of noisy engine in cold start warm-up, and wind noise on highway speed.
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Re: [ateixeira] by rengaw
Feb 13, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 11, 2009 8:18 am)

Yes, one of the compaints of the RAV is the 15.9 gallan tank,especially with the V6. I like to see at least 400 miles per tank, it can help when one wants to be selective in searching for a brand or price of fuel.
 
I have a Ford F150 which has two tanks and gives me something like 36 gallons. I previously had an F150 with a single 21 gallon tank. Now when you are getting 14 mpg with a 21 gallon tank, it literally seems as if you are stopping at every station. But filling up that 36 gallon tank when fuel was higher than it presently is, would extract $120 from my wallet at a time.
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Re: [kkrtrek] by WorkingManEsq
Feb 16, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: kkrtrek (Feb 09, 2009 9:17 pm)

New to Board:
 
I was leaning towards the CR-V, but I like to have a bit more power. The V6 RAV-4 and the Forrester Turbo appear to be competitors.
 
In comparing the turbo Forrester and the V6 RAV-4, the main difference appears to be the requirement to use premium fuel in the turbo. Three questions:
 
1. Can someone comment on the appropriate octane, and whether one could use 87 or 89 octane?
 
2. Has anyone test drove the turbo and the V6? Are they close?
 
3. Has anyone considered comparing a Outback V6 with a RAV4 V6?
 
Thanks in advance.

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