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Replying to: bj02176 (Dec 08, 2008 2:21 pm) And the 4-speed auto would be an instant deal-breaker for me too. But amiller1 was only asking about the snow-trekking ability.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 08, 2008 5:23 pm) That 4 speed is ten better than the 5 speed auto in my Toyota. No contest. You can't just count the number of gears, there's so much more to it than that. In the snow, between a new Forester and CR-V, I would opt for the Subaru because it has more ground clearance plus a more sophisticated full-time AWD system. Tires are absolutely the #1 factor so a set of snow tires would sway the advantage either way.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 23, 2008 10:39 am) 
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 23, 2008 10:08 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 24, 2008 7:24 am)  I mean, no one's complaining about the 5-sp in auto in the Legacy and Outback.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 24, 2008 9:49 am) All things equal, more gears are better, absolutely. I'll take 5, 6, whatever. Just add ratios without losing the shifts and programming that it has now. To be honest Subaru will likely go with a CVT instead, like Nissan has done. They share suppliers on a lot of things. I'm a fan of manual transmission, but I actually have to admit I *like* the 4EAT in my wife's Forester. I've only said that about one other automatic, ever in my life - my buddy's Porsche Boxster Tiptronic. |
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I am in the market for a compact 4WD for the ski season so looking ath 09 Forester, Rav4 and CRV. So far I like the styling of the forester and the power of the Rav4 V6 The Forester 2.5X does feel quite sluggish to me. I wonder how it will handle in the mountains (Lake Tahoe in my case) during the ski season... Does anyone have experience with either of these cars (base 4-cyl models) in mountain + snow conditions and how well they perform. |
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Replying to: driverboy (Jun 28, 2006 9:13 pm) Speaking from experience in the Reno to Carson City commute I can tell you that my 03 Forester X has saved my butt several times in terms of excellent braking, handling/maneuverability under braking, very good visibility without a camera, and excellent AWD capabilities in fair and foul weather. The car has 90K miles with zero problems and performs as good as new still. I find the power delivery to be good enough and not what I’d call sluggish. All three on your short list would be good. Remember that Subaru is full time AWD while the other two are FWD biased with reactive AWD. Just my 2 cents.
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Replying to: 10years (Dec 28, 2008 12:39 pm)
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Replying to: driverboy (Jun 28, 2006 9:13 pm) We wanted the best possible mileage and range, so we looked at base 4 cylinder engines. The Forester has the biggest gas tank in this class (16.9 gallons, surprisingly enough the same size as the Tribeca!) combined with good mileage, and before you say Escape Hybrid that interior didn't come close to meeting my standards (we actually looked at the Mercury version). Any how, with expectations for that class, I found the Forester very responsive. We did get the 175hp PZEV model, which is $300 or so extra, but you get 5hp plus it's cleaner and greener. In PZEV states the emissions warranty covers your catalytic converter for 150k miles, too. That base engine has fairly high compression and AVCS valve timing, plus shorter gearing than the Forester XT, so we actually find it responsive. Specifically you feel it move immediately as you hit the gas pedal. It's not fast, but merely quick and responsive, if I'm explaining it properly. I have that V6/5 speed powertrain from the RAV4 in my minivan, and it's the opposite. It takes a bit longer to respond, especially for the transmission to pick the right gear, but once it does, it's quite fast. So not as responsive, but faster once you get going. I hope that's clear. |
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