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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 08, 2008 1:37 am) I had a 2003 Forester, the abs on this thing along with the tires sucked, while good in deep snow the rest of the time I felt unsafe. Slid across a major street from a side st, couldn't stop. My first generation CRV (can't remember the year) was good along with my gas hog 2007 Santa Fe which I traded for a 2008 CRV. Got the 2008 CRV last March so don't know how good it will be. Replaced the original tires with some Nokians just recently. Contrary to poplular believe there is no pull to the left or right. No rear diff noise at 12,000 miles, maybe at 15, but who knows. Traded the Forester for a 2003 Honda Accord, the dealer didn't want to take the Forester. However maybe the 2009 is an improvement, still no 5 speed auto though and the gas mileage is better on the 2008 CRV than the 2003 Forester.
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Replying to: bj02176 (Dec 08, 2008 3:21 pm) And the 4-speed auto would be an instant deal-breaker for me too. But amiller1 was only asking about the snow-trekking ability.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 08, 2008 6:23 pm) That 4 speed is ten better than the 5 speed auto in my Toyota. No contest. You can't just count the number of gears, there's so much more to it than that. In the snow, between a new Forester and CR-V, I would opt for the Subaru because it has more ground clearance plus a more sophisticated full-time AWD system. Tires are absolutely the #1 factor so a set of snow tires would sway the advantage either way.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 23, 2008 11:39 am) 
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 23, 2008 11:08 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 24, 2008 8:24 am)  I mean, no one's complaining about the 5-sp in auto in the Legacy and Outback.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 24, 2008 10:49 am) All things equal, more gears are better, absolutely. I'll take 5, 6, whatever. Just add ratios without losing the shifts and programming that it has now. To be honest Subaru will likely go with a CVT instead, like Nissan has done. They share suppliers on a lot of things. I'm a fan of manual transmission, but I actually have to admit I *like* the 4EAT in my wife's Forester. I've only said that about one other automatic, ever in my life - my buddy's Porsche Boxster Tiptronic. |
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I am in the market for a compact 4WD for the ski season so looking ath 09 Forester, Rav4 and CRV. So far I like the styling of the forester and the power of the Rav4 V6 The Forester 2.5X does feel quite sluggish to me. I wonder how it will handle in the mountains (Lake Tahoe in my case) during the ski season... Does anyone have experience with either of these cars (base 4-cyl models) in mountain + snow conditions and how well they perform. |
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Replying to: driverboy (Jun 28, 2006 10:13 pm) Speaking from experience in the Reno to Carson City commute I can tell you that my 03 Forester X has saved my butt several times in terms of excellent braking, handling/maneuverability under braking, very good visibility without a camera, and excellent AWD capabilities in fair and foul weather. The car has 90K miles with zero problems and performs as good as new still. I find the power delivery to be good enough and not what I’d call sluggish. All three on your short list would be good. Remember that Subaru is full time AWD while the other two are FWD biased with reactive AWD. Just my 2 cents.
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Replying to: 10years (Dec 28, 2008 1:39 pm)
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