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Re: CRV vs RAV4 [drwoodr] by stevecar
May 16, 2007 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: drwoodr (May 15, 2007 7:50 pm)

You bring up some good points. Farmingrocks may want to check out the CRV vs Sante Fe subject for additional info. If resale value is not an issue, a test drive should be a must before a decision is made. With Hyundai, the sticker, and even invoice price, is only a ballpark. The only problem is if you want to sell or trade within a few years, the depreciation is high.
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Re: about insurance costs [ajstewart] by ateixeira
May 16, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: ajstewart (May 15, 2007 12:51 pm)

You can get a general idea, but insurance varies by demographics and by geographic location, so the best thing would be to call your current insurance agent for a quote.
 
I mean, if you get a KBB value for a car, that's fine, but they're not buying it, or making any promises. So if they tell you insurance will be cheap and they are wrong, again, it's a "tough luck" scenario.
 
Your insurance agent will have to honor that price quote, so call them first.
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Re: CRV vs RAV4 [10years] by blueiedgod
May 16, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: 10years (May 15, 2007 6:20 am)

Take a look at the newly re-engineered Mitsubishi Outlander. It is a serious competitor to the CRV and RAV4. It's getting high marks on user evaluations, is loaded with standard content and has a double the warranty of Honda or Toyota at a lower price.
  
All these choices are good.

 
As the cost of fuel keeps rising, I am sure more and more people will start thinking long term rather than short term. A lower cost of entry may come at a higher cost of driving, through lower fuel economy.
 
So, when basing your decisions on what to buy, think long term. Purchase price may seem like a good spot to focus attention, but 5 and 10 year cost of operation is where the prize is at.
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Re: CRV vs RAV4 [farmingrocks] by tifighter
May 16, 2007 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: farmingrocks (May 15, 2007 1:59 pm)

I have to say that the new Outlander is one of those cars that looks uncompetitive on paper but is pretty appealing in person. They look great, have some nice options available and are consistently reviewed well. The depreciation is the big question mark. When it comes time to replace my Forester, I'd be willing to check one out.
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Sante Fe pricing... by bkaiser1
May 16, 2007 (1:00 pm)
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I would suggest at least *looking* at a Santa Fe before crossing it off your list...they seem to be readily available for thousands off of MSRP. I emailed several dealers (via Edmunds) to get a quote for my parents and was surprised to see the quotes come in for around $22K for a FWD mid-level model with a sunroof and a few other options. And this was without any degree of haggling...I just asked for the price of a specific trim level.
 
I'm a huge Subaru fan, but the Hyundai represents a stellar value by offering quite a bit more "stuff" for less money. Even adding $1500 to that quote for AWD (to make it comparable to a Subaru) only brings the tab to around $23,000.
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Re: Sante Fe pricing... [bkaiser1] by ateixeira
May 17, 2007 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: bkaiser1 (May 16, 2007 1:00 pm)

The SF is a good value, especially when you consider the Tucson is closer to Forester-sized.
 
I think Hyundais are appealing for people who plan to keep their cars forever, that way resale isn't a major concern.
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Hyundai by rochcom
May 17, 2007 (8:27 am)
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With my 1998 Forester S at 134,000 miles, I have been looking for a replacement. I want to see the new Forester before making a decision though, so I am trying to hold out until then. I looked at both the Tucson and the Sante Fe. The big turnoff for me is the fuel economy. The Tucson, with a smaller engine than Forester, gets poorer mileage, even with front wheel drive. Add in 4WD and there is no comparison. The 6 cylinder is worse, and the Santa Fe, even worse. Also, try getting anything other than a base model of any Subaru competitor with a manual transmission. I do like the warranties though: 5yrs/60k overall, 10yrs/100K on the drivetrain.
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Re: Hyundai [rochcom] by ateixeira
May 17, 2007 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: rochcom (May 17, 2007 8:27 am)

The Sedona/Entourage van is on my list of minivans I'm considering (yeah, I know, I'm all over the place) and the only serious kink in their armor is the fuel mileage. They are thoroughly competent everywhere else.
 
I guess resale, too, but it's hard to predict what residuals will be a decade from now, since I plan to keep it a long time.
 
The SF tested well in CR (as did all 3 entries in the thread title).
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Re: Hyundai [ateixeira] by stevecar
May 17, 2007 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 17, 2007 10:38 am)

Resale isn't really an issue if you're looking 10 years out.
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Re: Hyundai [stevecar] by ateixeira
May 17, 2007 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: stevecar (May 17, 2007 11:20 am)

Not a big one, no, but even my 9 year old Forester is getting $5550. I've had 3 callers already and 2 test drivers. Might be sold by the weekend.
 
I kinda doubt I could get that kind of money for, say, a 1998 Kia Sportage. Maybe a grand or two.
 
So it matters much less, but it still matters some.

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