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Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4 or Subaru Forester?

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Re: Off Topic? [rsholland] by varmint
May 01, 2007 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Apr 27, 2007 12:56 pm)

112-113" probably is typical for three row mid-sizers, but the Equinox is billed as a two row small SUV. It matches up with plenty of two row mid-sizers (Highlander, Murano, Edge, etc.)
 
For a long time, smaller minivans (like the regular Caravan) ran 112" for almost every example. Larger vans (like the Grand Caravan) were almost always 120".
 
With compact SUVs like the ones discussed here, the class hasn't been around long enough for the formula to be standardized. We've discussed this in other threads. Some examples of "small SUVs", like the Liberty, are truckish and heavy (to the tune of 3,800 lbs or more). Others, like the Forester, are car-like and lightweight (nearly 800 lbs lighter).
 
First Honda, then Ford, and now others (Toyota) seem to have nailed down the general size. However, there are still wide deviations within the class in other respects.
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Avoid McHondas like the plague... by mugwomp
May 07, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Forester (hands down - if you enjoy driving, that is) then the RAV-4. Won't be caught dead/alive in a Honda; they truly scare the living poop out of me. I have one friend with a speech impediment and one friend without a father - both victims of Honda accidents. A Pilot driver's brakes just went out in Belmont, California - forcing his "vehicle" out of control - driving over about a dozen children. Most of the kids in the eastside ghettos from my area in California (Redwood City) drive Hondas, I fear for my safety and wonder how many are even insured. Between the reviews which make the CR-V sound as cheap as it looks, the weak engine, rollover issues and Honda's miserable styling - I don't know how any person could feel good about a Honda purchase. I wouldn't want one if it was given to me for free. Good luck. When I see a Honda in my rearview I get out of the way, fast.
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [mugwomp] by steve_ HOST
May 07, 2007 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: mugwomp (May 07, 2007 1:13 pm)

It's apparently too soon to tell what the cause of the Belmont accident was (link).
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [mugwomp] by bodble2
May 07, 2007 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: mugwomp (May 07, 2007 1:13 pm)

"Most of the kids in the eastside ghettos from my area in California (Redwood City) drive Hondas"
 
And they live in the ghetto? Suddenly I feel very poor!
 
"...the reviews which make the CR-V sound as cheap as it looks, the weak engine, rollover issues"
 
What/where are these reviews to which you referred?
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [steve_] by marig0107
May 08, 2007 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 07, 2007 2:00 pm)

thanx for the link. I had not seen that on the news. Sounds like another case of the elderly driving past their time. Remember the market or plaza accident several years back? What a tragedy that was. No one ever said it was the car's fault.
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [mugwomp] by ateixeira
May 08, 2007 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: mugwomp (May 07, 2007 1:13 pm)

I don't think it's fair to characterize Hondas as unsafe when both the CR-V and Pilot are IIHS "TOP SAFETY PICK 2007 Award Winners":
 
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx
 
Subaru managed 3 vehicles on that list, Toyota zero. Not that Toyotas aren't safe, they just didn't top the list.
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [mugwomp] by blueiedgod
May 08, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: mugwomp (May 07, 2007 1:13 pm)

Forester (hands down - if you enjoy driving, that is) then the RAV-4. Won't be caught dead/alive in a Honda; they truly scare the living poop out of me. I have one friend with a speech impediment and one friend without a father - both victims of Honda accidents. A Pilot driver's brakes just went out in Belmont, California - forcing his "vehicle" out of control - driving over about a dozen children. Most of the kids in the eastside ghettos from my area in California (Redwood City) drive Hondas, I fear for my safety and wonder how many are even insured. Between the reviews which make the CR-V sound as cheap as it looks, the weak engine, rollover issues and Honda's miserable styling - I don't know how any person could feel good about a Honda purchase. I wouldn't want one if it was given to me for free. Good luck. When I see a Honda in my rearview I get out of the way, fast.
 
That is the most ridiculous post ever.
 
An old person, who happens to be driving Honda plows a bunch of people, and all over sudden, Honda is not safe. What about the guy in a Buick in Hartford, CT? or The guy in Toyota Avalon in Fl? Maybe, just maybe, the common denominator here is "old people"? And not the vehicle?
 
Just because some people in the ghetto (read hispanics and blacks) drive Honda, does not make it a bad vehicle.
 
I could just go on the same and say that because Martina Navratilova (lesbian) was the spokes person for the Forester, I would never drive one because it will make me gay. Doesn't that sound just plain stupid?
 
Care to point to the roll over data on either Honda CR-V, Honda Pilot, Acura RDX, or Acrua MDX?
 
I fear for my safety knowing that there is an ignorant person like this...
 
Just to think that these people can multiply, we are doomed!!! Everyone should rent "Idiocracy", this is exactly what we see here.
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [blueiedgod] by tazereli
May 08, 2007 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (May 08, 2007 5:46 am)

I just saw that movie this past weekend. While not that good it does show how scary it can be when people get dumbed down. Then make it look worse by pulling "facts" out of the air. mouths and behinds can both spew noxious sounds whether they are words or otherwise.
Kyle
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [blueiedgod] by ateixeira
May 08, 2007 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (May 08, 2007 5:46 am)

I believe all 3 of these vehicles get a 4 star rating for the static rollover measures, though the Forester's detailed score is slightly higher.
 
Still, not a significant difference.
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Re: Avoid McHondas like the plague... [blueiedgod] by 719b
May 08, 2007 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (May 08, 2007 5:46 am)

good post. you said exactly what i was thinking when i read that posting.

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