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Re: Wrong Safety Info [blueiedgod]
by p0926
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Feb 21, 2006 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Feb 21, 2006 1:01 pm)
Hummer H1
Suburban
Escalade
Excursion
Statistically speaking, I believe that these are not as safe as a full-size sedan or minivan
I actually thought about mentionng the M1 Abrams as the ultimate safe vehicle but decided not to since they aren't readily available for civilian purchase Plus, there's no place to secure a child's car seat
-Frank
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Re: Wrong Safety Info [p0926]
by tidester HOST
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Feb 21, 2006 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: p0926 (Feb 21, 2006 4:48 pm)
The Ferrari Enzo is the way to go! In what other vehicle can the passengers survive a 120+ mph crash?
tidester, host
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Re: Wrong Safety Info [tidester]
by p0926
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Feb 22, 2006 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 21, 2006 9:13 pm)
That's pretty impressive but luck was still a huge factor. Had the car hit the power pole just a foot or two further forward, the passenger compartment would have been crushed. That's also a pretty bizarre story the un-named owner told the cops. I'm pretty sure he was also the sole occupant of the vehicle.
-Frank
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Re: Wrong Safety Info [p0926]
by blueiedgod
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Feb 22, 2006 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Feb 21, 2006 4:48 pm)
I actually thought about mentionng the M1 Abrams as the ultimate safe vehicle but decided not to since they aren't readily available for civilian purchase Plus, there's no place to secure a child's car seat
-Frank
Bradley assault vehicle somes with 6WD and armored sides
I hope people saw sarcasm in my original post.
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Re: CR-V vs. Forester vs RAV4
by kavoom
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Feb 23, 2006 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: growler5 (Feb 10, 2006 8:14 am)
They are all nice. I got my 2004 Forester (five speed) a year ago because the Forester had the best tow capability (2400 lbs)of a small SUV period...until this new RAV4 came out. The old one couldn't tow your hat and has the CRV moved up from 1,500 lbs? Oh and my Forester was an 04 in early 05 so I basically stole it...and apparently I was the only person wanting a five speed.
This new RAV 4, though has got my attention with a 3500 lb tow capability and inexpensive tow package and the looks have improved substantially over the older RAV4's. I was never sure if they or Sante Fe's were worse looking.. But that new RAV 4 with the six cylinder (only one with higher tow rating than Subaru Forester) ends up costing about 5K + over a Forester. You can get an Outback with the same specs as the RAV 4 and a Turbo if you want.
So, maybe once they get a few years on this new RAV 4, and make sure that extremely complex AWD works (I hear it is essentially a two wheel drive with an extremely sophisticated four wheel traction control.) Anyone have any facts on that?
Right now, my Forester kicks booty going up the mountains and then across states at 75 mph getting 22 mpg towing 1,800 lbs of pop up camper passing much bigger TV's along the way.
Works for me...but That new RAV4 is definitely worth a look.
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Re: CR-V vs. Forester vs RAV4 [kavoom]
by oregonboy
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Feb 27, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: kavoom (Feb 23, 2006 6:55 pm)
I believe the V6 Rav is auto-trans only, so if you prefer a manual shift (as I do) you may have to shop elsewhere.
james
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Re: CR-V vs. Forester vs RAV4 [kavoom]
by toycash
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Apr 23, 2006 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: kavoom (Feb 23, 2006 6:55 pm)
I assume you must be basing that "5K+" difference on a V6 RAV vs. a base Forester. Horsepower-wise, you would have to get a turbo Forester which is over 27K, while a V6 RAV starts under 25K, and the RAV still has 39 more hp.
It is interesting that the Forester 4-cyl. only has 7 more hp than the RAV 4-cyl. but has a better tow rating by 900 lbs.!
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Re: CR-V vs. Forester vs RAV4 [toycash]
by kumari
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Apr 23, 2006 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: toycash (Apr 23, 2006 12:27 pm)
I just bought a 2006 Forester XT (turbo) Limited for $25,300 and it comes fully loaded with many extras you have to pay mucho $$$ for at Toyota (leather heated seats, gigantic sunroof, etc.). The RAV was nice (test drove the 4 cyl, the 6 wasn't avail. yet), but still didn't corner as well as the Forester. Higher center of gravity with a rollover warning - and you can feel it. Of couse my XT, which I love, is getting lousy gas mileage (only 13-14 MPG so far) with only 350 miles on the odometer and I'm told it will get better as the engine breaks in, so I'm hoping. Wonder what the 6 cyl RAV would have gotten.
Samantha
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Re: CR-V vs. Forester vs RAV4 [toycash]
by p0926
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May 03, 2006 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: toycash (Apr 23, 2006 12:27 pm)
The out-the-door price of a Forester XT is roughly the same as that of a comparably equipped V6 RAV4 (Foresters sell at closer to invoice). And while the RAV4's V6 does have a little more oomph, it has to haul around an additional 400 pounds so the Forester XT is quicker. Of course the RAV4 holds more people and or cargo and the V6 can tow more so as usual, it boils down to where your priorities are
-Frank
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