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#320 of 369 Chrysler style by nippononly

May 10, 2007 (7:41 am)

with Toyota reliability and VW interiors - unbeatable!! Will people pay the premium for such an automobile?

#321 of 369 Re: Chrysler style [nippononly] by circlew

May 10, 2007 (7:56 am)

Replying to: nippononly (May 10, 2007 7:41 am)
Take a look at BMW and Merc sales. I'm talking better quality ratings than these brands.
 
Yes, yes, YES they will sell.
 
Put another way, if the 300C, 2009 Camaro, FORD Mustang, Corvette, 2008-9 Challenger had bulletproof build quality, do you think they would sell?
 
No brainer! Off the charts, IMO. The problem is it takes time to develop the brand.
 
The reason this will NOT HAPPEN is US Auto keep killing the brands!
 
Regards,
OW

#322 of 369 Re: Chrysler style [circlew] by nippononly

May 10, 2007 (8:05 am)

Replying to: circlew (May 10, 2007 7:56 am)
The 300C has an interior not worthy of a car costing 2/3 the price, let alone the $25K+ it commands in the real world.
 
Ditto the Ford Mustang. Cheapness everywhere, a crappy shifter, I could go on. This is a little more acceptable in an $18K V-6 pony car (but I sure wouldn't put up with it in the $25K V-8 model), but isn't something to be proud of. The Mustang sells on its iconic reputation and inexpensive horsepower-per-dollar ratio.
 
My point is, give all those cars you mentioned bulletproof reliability, and you're still only 2 for 3 IMO. (In fact, neither the 300C nor the Mustang have proven to be unreliable models, have they? Not that I have read)

#323 of 369 Re: Chrysler style [nippononly] by circlew

May 10, 2007 (8:30 am)

Replying to: nippononly (May 10, 2007 8:05 am)
The point is that if they actually were built with exceptional materials and quality that is bulletproof not the crappy product you get today, then sales would be hard to stop.
 
Not to worry. As I said, that will never happen anyway.
 
Regards,
OW

#324 of 369 Re: Chrysler style [nippononly] by driver56

May 10, 2007 (3:56 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (May 10, 2007 8:05 am)
And I truly believe that Toyota or Honda are not as durable or as reliable as some people like to think (or not think).
At least not as much as they were.
That is why I'm always shopping around and also why I'm not brand loyal.
My humble opinion.

#325 of 369 Re: Returning to Chrysler... [rockylee] by driver56

May 10, 2007 (4:04 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (May 07, 2007 9:36 am)
I predicted that so am not surpised. On their way striving to be #1. Toyota can easily weather that storm though, because of their reputation. It will be interesting to see if the #1 spot becomes a curse.

#326 of 369 the #1 spot [driver56] by wtd44

May 11, 2007 (6:54 am)

Replying to: driver56 (May 10, 2007 4:04 pm)
Let's hope the top spot soon is American again.

#327 of 369 Re: the #1 spot [wtd44] by circlew

May 11, 2007 (7:27 am)

Replying to: wtd44 (May 11, 2007 6:54 am)
Soon is relative. The auto industry is over 100 years old and that is a nanosecond in universe time. I'll bet it takes a good part of the next nanosecond for an pure-bred American Auto Company to gain that spot again, if ever.
 
Regards,
OW

#328 of 369 Re: Returning to Chrysler... [driver56] by oldguy70

May 11, 2007 (8:40 am)

Replying to: driver56 (May 10, 2007 4:04 pm)
As much as I lament the situation for the former Big 3, Toyota is now in no.1 spot and will very likely remain there.
Toyota is just too far out ahead of the US automakers just now in all categories especially quality and reputation for reliability.
That's not to say that GM might catch up someday, but for now they're going to have to be satisfied playing second fiddle.
Also too, it's GM's fault in the long run; too big, too arrogant, for too long.
As for Ford and Chrysler? I think they're on the way out. It's just a matter of when now.

#329 of 369 Re: Returning to Chrysler... [oldguy70] by circlew

May 11, 2007 (11:52 am)

Replying to: oldguy70 (May 11, 2007 8:40 am)
I agree with your entire post! Well said!
 
Regards,
OW

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