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Toyota Yaris vs. Scion xA

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Re: Scion xA is no longer being made ? [tjw1308] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 09, 2006 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: tjw1308 (Oct 09, 2006 11:43 am)

What speeds do you drive usually? Are you using AC at all?
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Re: Scion xA is no longer being made ? [Mr_Shiftright] by lhanson
Oct 09, 2006 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 09, 2006 12:09 pm)

That's about what I get with my mt lb Yaris. Never less than 37 in the city and never more that 40 on the highway. Used the air on the highway, but not usually in the city.
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Re: Scion xA is no longer being made ? [Mr_Shiftright] by tjw1308
Oct 09, 2006 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 09, 2006 12:09 pm)

"What speeds do you drive usually?"
 
Umm... never over the limit officer, I SWEAR
 
Actually I probably average between 70-80 on the highway, depending on traffic.
 
There is indeed a big difference if I push it much past that though (and I think 65MPH or so is where most people get the 44+ averages from, as I can't seem to break 39). When I had a few miles on it (I have 2500 already lol), I decided I'd see just how BAD I could get on a tank, driving it hard, in the city a lot, etc. so I could have an idea of "worst case". I ended up getting about 32MPG that tank.
 
It WILL do 100, despite taking a while to get there
 
I also live in darn near the hottest place on Earth, so my A/C is CONSTANTLY on The flip side is, it's flat (relatively), and that definitely effects MPG too.
 
T
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Re: Scion xA is no longer being made ? [tjw1308] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 09, 2006 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: tjw1308 (Oct 09, 2006 1:53 pm)

I wonder why you are beating the EPA upper limits by so much? That's at least 10% over EPA optimum. Quite unusual.
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Re: Scion xA is no longer being made ? [Mr_Shiftright] by tjw1308
Oct 09, 2006 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 09, 2006 2:17 pm)

The Yaris is rated 34/40, so I'm not too far out of whack. I think driving habits and when you shift (I have a manual and have driven manuals all my life) make a difference.
 
And if you believe what some of the other (slower) owners have gotten (44+, which I take with a certain grain of salt), the EPA average is the one out of whack (like it is with the Prius lol... My co-worker has one, and only gets around 45 in real world).
 
Even if the mileage estimates were completely accurate (xA: 32/37 (34.5 combined) vs. Yaris: 34/40 (37 Combined)), the difference would be about 7%.
 
Small, but interesting none the less
 
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Re: Scion xA is no longer being made ? [tjw1308] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 09, 2006 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: tjw1308 (Oct 09, 2006 3:49 pm)

7% still seems like too much difference for the same basic car...more like 4% seems probable--which would/could be explained by gearing and aerodynamic differences (if any, I don't know). Yeah, I'd take 44 mpg with a large block of salt...you could do it but not on real roads at real speeds.
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I dunno by nippononly
Oct 10, 2006 (10:29 am)
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I bet it could be done. I get about 40.5 mpg as a running average covering more than 10K miles now, in my Echo. That's a lighter car with slightly less power, yes, but the Yaris is actually slower than the Echo, so I think it must be geared a little taller for fuel savings. And most of my driving is suburban or into the city, which would lead to reduced fuel economy in my case. When I do go on long trips in the thing, I manage 44-46 mpg or more without trying too hard, and with the A/C running constantly.
 
The trick, of course, is not to ignore speed limits. Gas mileage is affected greatly by speed.
 
But bottom line, I find it easy to believe there are slower drivers out there pulling 44 mpg in the Yaris. They will continue to do so as long as that egg is under the gas pedal...
 
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Yup by tjw1308
Oct 10, 2006 (3:36 pm)
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I think if I really tried to (and I doubt I ever could for an entire tank), I'd probably be able to get 42 or better on the highway.
 
It's possible, if for no other reason than I drive with the A/C on constantly, drive fairly aggressively anyway, and STILL got close to 39.
 
Amazing, but even with gas prices back down a little, I still feel great only having to fill up every 400 miles (and only 11 or so gallons per hehe)...
 
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Re: I dunno [nippononly] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 10, 2006 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 10, 2006 10:29 am)

I get 36 mpg driving real fast on the freeway. I'm more than satisfied with that. I'm sure I could hit 40 but it would be very boring for me.
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Re: I dunno [Mr_Shiftright] by blackyaris2007
Dec 30, 2006 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 10, 2006 8:16 pm)

I have a black Yaris just put 400 miles on her in 24 hours. Gas mileage awesome. Went 400 miles and tank was on half way mark.
 
Re the discussion:
 
The difference is the ride and peppiness in my opinion. I have driven them all and frankly the Scion XA annoyed me. It was slow and loud. I did not like it at all. The first time I drove the Scion XB it was slow. The next one driven two years later (both manuals) was quicker and more responsive but in 05 the Scion XB I drove was slow.
 
Comparable pound for pound to peppiness, responsiveness and zip based on my test drives has been Yaris to Accent.
Third would be the Aveo. I love the interior design of the Aveo (utilitarian) but the doors feel cheapy to me and the manual was really really sloppy.
 
The Fit had a hard road feel ride which is typical of Hondas IMO. They just feel more racy and like you are riding next to the road. I don't like that feeling. The Aveo is in between that feel and the soft floating feel of the Toyo.
 
It is ALL SUBJECTIVE! You have to decide on what makes you comfortable. We have different needs and obviously my impression will be different than someone else's.

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