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Toyota Yaris vs. Scion xA

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What is this discussion about? Scion xA, Toyota Yaris, Sedan


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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [cdoc] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 09, 2006 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: cdoc (May 09, 2006 8:35 am)

again, all cars are a compromise. If you had 6 gears, with 6th being an overdrive, you'd have to pay more for it in MSRP, and with 1.5 liters, you'd be downshifting out of 6th on every slight grade.
 
These types of cars are really perfect urban and inter-urban cars. They aren't good longterm highway cruisers. But for that matter, neither is the next step up, the $20,000 compacts.
 
Until you start considering cars with V-6s and considerable cabin space, you aren't going to get a really satisfactory highway car, I don't think.
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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [Mr_Shiftright] by cdoc
May 09, 2006 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 09, 2006 8:41 am)

You make a good point. But I think it's a matter of taste. I wouldn't mind paying $500 more and getting a 6th gear which I would use only the the highway.
 
I disagree that the satisfactory highway cars are those that are larger and more powerful. Our other car is an '05 Saturn Ion (yes, we have an Ion and a Scion), and for a small family this car is wonderful on the highway.
 
Still, I'm not complaining. I thoroughly enjoy the xA.
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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [cdoc] by reddroverr
May 09, 2006 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: cdoc (May 09, 2006 9:40 am)

$500 more seems high. if the 6 spd was the standard manual trans., it doesn't seem the cost should be more than an extra hundred or two...if that.
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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [reddroverr] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 09, 2006 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: reddroverr (May 09, 2006 11:10 am)

The engine really doesn't have the power to pull a 6th gear I don't think. It would stress the engine IMO. I'm trying to think if there is ANY 6 speed car with this power to weight ratio. Don't know.
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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [Mr_Shiftright] by reddroverr
May 09, 2006 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 09, 2006 12:14 pm)

You got me. Logically, I would think it wouldn't be a problem to maintain speed on non-hill surfaces. But, I don't have any hard facts.
 
I searched around and the nissan versa has a six speed and has
 
122 hp and weighs 2779 at the most.
 
How does that compare to your rig?
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Re: sticker [cdoc] by chrisducati
May 10, 2006 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: cdoc (Mar 24, 2006 4:51 am)

cdoc asked
"Does anyone know why the Yaris isn't offered as a 5-door (4 door + liftback) here? It's available in Europe and Canada, and probably everywhere else. Could it be so that it doesn't compete with the xA, which is available only in the US?"
 
I would guess Toyota does not want to cut into xA sales being that the xA is a five door.
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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [reddroverr] by cdoc
May 10, 2006 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: reddroverr (May 09, 2006 12:57 pm)

The xA has 105 hp (with the newest method of measuring). Could less than 20 hp make that much of a difference?
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Re: sticker [chrisducati] by cdoc
May 10, 2006 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: chrisducati (May 10, 2006 5:37 am)

I've heard rumors (are they true?) that the '07 xA will be the 5-door Yaris.
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Re: sticker [cdoc] by jdgriswald
May 10, 2006 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: cdoc (May 10, 2006 6:23 am)

One can only hope. I've seen comments on Scionlife from Scion dealers inferring the same thing. Nothing specific, just comments like "you won't recognize the RS 3.0 xA"
If it's true, I'm all over it like a fat kid on a cookie.
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Re: xA vs Yaris Economy [reddroverr] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 10, 2006 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: reddroverr (May 09, 2006 12:57 pm)

That's about the same power to weight ratio. I haven't driven the Versa, so I don't know. Also don't know if 6th gear in the Versa is an overdrive or not.
 
Just priced out a new Yaris with comparable equipment to the xA and it is about $1,700 more in the 4-door sedan version with the same equipment as I got on the xA
 
So I'm not getting what the Yaris is a better deal than the xA. Same basic engine, same basic amenities...what am I missing here?
 

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