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#529 of 542 Jeep Wrangler vs Toyota FJ Cruiser
Feb 05, 2011 (1:21 pm)
We have had a Jeep in the family since 1963. The first was a 1963 Willy's Jeep CJ6 my dad bought from a fire station for 900 dollars. It lacked about every creature comfort that one could imagine and was highly underpowered with an I-4. But durability was never an issue. After an accident with a Chevy Impala; the car was determined totaled by insurance and because the Jeep had a bent fender and bumper the owner of the Impala who happened to be related to my Dad's boss decided to pay for the minor damage to Dad's Jeep and give him the engine from the Impala; a V-8 small block. It was perfect for the Jeep and with just a little work with Uncle Al we were able to fabricate all the parts and mounts needed to make our Jeep a hybrid powerhouse. Fact we had to weight the rear end because it would spin every time he hit the gas. With lock hubs it out performed the IH Scout every time we went off roading. We would routinely have to use the winch to pull out our friends that thought they had a chance behind us. With Jeep in my blood , I now own two Jeeps; the Commander and a brand new Jeep Wrangler with a manual transmission. I agree with the one article that complained of having an underpowered engine with the new V-6 but only at the low end and only with the automatic. I had one of them for a year and returned it for a stick. I have been all over with the stick and with the snow we just had I pulled near 20 vehicles (trucks and cars alike) from ditches. The Jeep Wrangler Sport that I have now has a limited slip rear end and endless torque with the manual transmission. I plowed through 5 foot snow drifts without hesitation and had no problem getting along where no one else could travel. The jury is still out on reliability. I do my own maintenance so I know the job is getting done right and with the best parts. When I got back from Iraq I bought a used 07 automatic; it made it through the 2010 ice storms without missing a beat. I was a little worried that with the soft top a tree might find a direct path to my head but the good Lord decided to spare my cranium from direct tree contact. Just for the record I am a 1SG in the Army so not making it to work has never been an option no matter what I had to do to get there. For years I have been what the Army sees as essential personnel with very few exceptions to that rule. The Jeep Wrangler has been my way for most of my 25 years of service. I am a real outdoors man so no 4X4 that can not go full convertible would do. I was disappointed when Jeep went away from the I-6 for the new engine but I have to admit even though it traded a little of the low end off road power, it made up for it on the highway. I had to face reality that my Wrangler has to also be able to perform on pavement. The new Jeep engine does not bog in even the strongest head winds that Oklahoma has to offer. My new on with a stick has had no problem facing the worst I could throw at it; even off road but in OK it is hard to really put it through an offroad test. I just had to adjust the way I play the clutch. My Dad's CJ 6 had a stick, granny gear, limited slip rear end as well as manual lock hubs for real four wheel drive. My new one has the electronic equivalent along with all the safety features not even heard of in 63; ESP, smart brakes and a power drive system that really does keep you on the road; ice, snow or whatever and an ESP shut off feature when in low lock so I can still play when I want to. As for the Toyota FJ Cruiser, I do not have much to say about it. Toyota's have grown in reliability so if it is what you want go for it but if like me you are in to Jeeps then from my experience they perform and well I like the way it looks.
#530 of 542 Re: Jeep Wrangler vs Toyota FJ Cruiser [rock1toc]
Feb 27, 2011 (11:02 am)
If you get a chance race an FJC of comparable stature. There's no way you can make up for 50 h.p. . I've raced all forms of jk jeep wranglers and haven't even had a close race yet.(you'll have to turbocharge it to get close to the same horsepower.) That being said, the jeep does have its following and it is a good off-road vehicle no doubt. At least some of the models are worthy. BUT, being a new jeep owner, good luck with Chrysler and their lack of customer service satisfaction. Quite frankly they suck! Remember one thing, comparing old jeeps with new jeeps is like comparing apples to oranges as far as reliability is concerned. You could beat the crap out of an old jeep and they'd still drag your butt out of the woods. Now BOOM and your done. And once again if it's under warranty, Oh Well.
B.T.Y. Thank you for your service to country. HUAH!
Feb 27, 2011 (12:19 pm)
Owned Toyotas with no engine problems. Loved that little non supercharged Previa motor except for high wind days. Owned , we believe the first Liberty CRD in N. TX. - should have had a Cummins diesel in it. 32K miles on a 2009 JKU Rubicon. Some small issues and needed to add a Hayden tranny cooler. Hayden made in Australia others brag about B&M-believe both owned by Four Seasons with location in Coppell TX unless my one brain cell is out of its' socket.
Before ordering ours, the dealer had a JKU Rubicon on the lot that a FJ owner kept taking for days for test drives. We didn't buy it from under him after he brought it back a second time. Third time out, he bought it.
Never drove the FJ, needed four real doors like better_half's H3. Just spent yesterday driving hers all day and loved it. Then jumped in the Rubicon for a late catfish dinner. Still love the wrangler.
#532 of 542 Re: Jeep Wrangler vs Toyota FJ Cruiser [mountainman52]
Jun 14, 2011 (1:41 pm)
I'm not quite sure why you would ever want to race a Jeep Wrangler, but each to their own.
I'm just amused by some of the arguments and comparisons in this whole discussion - a bit over the top. It's exactly the same as the never-ending Mac vs PC war. If I lived in a bubble, I might fall onto one side or the other, but I live in the real world where there's no single correct answer, no black and white, just shades of grays. Both Wranglers and FJs have pros and cons, but in varying degrees depending on your needs and wants. A Wrangler "pro" to person A might be a "con" to person B. An FJ may be able to do something a Wrangler can't, but in an interested buyer doesn't care about that ability to begin with, why even make that feature an argument?
All that being said, I love my Wranger for both off-road and also enjoy it as my daily driver. But I've been in a friend's FJ and liked it, too. Guess I'm just not a diehard fanboy at heart.
#533 of 542 Re: Toyota FJ Cruiser vs. Jeep Wrangler [steve_]
Nov 21, 2011 (10:59 am)
I have a sticker in my back window of my fj. Freinds don't let freinds drive jeeps.
#534 of 542 Yeah.... Okay. Jeep FTW
Dec 04, 2011 (9:52 pm)
Well, my 2012 jeep wrangler has a sticker that says "Keep your Fake Jeep Cruiser. I'll stick with the brand that fought in world wars". (:
There is a reason why jeep has best in-class... Well... Everything. And also why they have the largest back-up of after market parts. Cuz they are worth it. An FJ is just a foreign version of the Cherokee. U can't compare one with my wrangler also considering the price difference. My buddy has one. It's not bad, but it's not a true off road vehicle in my opinion. As the name says it is a cruiser. And it is more comfortable driving on the road. But i like fun over a small amount more of comfort. And my jeep has a CAI and will blow an FJ away with a 0-60 time of 4.2 seconds. V-6 mustangs have lost to it. Also, my jeep breaks down into a fully convertible SUV in like 10 mins doing it alone. Plus i have the 6-Speed manual.It's just too easy to odd road in an automatic. Oh, and not to mention how fun it is to slide around a slightly wet road when u shut off the stability controlls.... I have much fun sliding it and drifting it lol. I just learned how to do a 180 then spam it in reverse and keep going. Never had a problem with earlier models breaking down. And I beat them to death. So I will stick with my wrangler. Cuz there ain't nothing like a jeep.
#535 of 542 Re: Yeah.... Okay. Jeep FTW [jerrald13]
Dec 14, 2011 (3:57 pm)
You do know that the FJ fought in World War II also. Just on the other side!
So that proves nothing.
I have 3 Jeeps and love them all. A 2000 GC with 201K (No problems)
A 1991 Cherokee with 225K no problems and a 1998 Wrangler Sport with 140K no problems. Two have the 4L and the GC has the 4.7
But the fact that they fought in WWII doesn't make them better.
What do you think Toyota and mitsubishi were building between 1935 and 1945?
As far as making fun of Toyota not having as many recalls as american cars, well, Toyota just doesn't tell their customers until too many of them get killed. Until then they just ignore the problem or pretend there is none.
They are now paying a great price for that attitude.
That being said, Toyota does build good cars, so do the americans (now)
#536 of 542 Re: Yeah.... Okay. Jeep FTW [clarkkent]
Dec 14, 2011 (6:05 pm)
First off. The subject was FJ vs JEEP WRANGLER ,not all jeep models and not all american cars . Second the fact that the jeep has its place, is well known( mostly being towed behind your camper). Third if anyone thinks that american car problems aren't kept hush hush,just remember the FORD PINTO and several other models. When hit from the rear the gas tanks exploded and the doors jammed shut. Can you say BBQ.
Anyway the point was IMO FJ has an all around better setup than the Wrangler for the price. I don't know about the 2012 model, except the Pentastar engines were rumored to be HECHO EN MEXICO. Good Luck jerald13. Oh ....yeah alot of us FJ owners feel the same way as you do F. T.he W.rangler By the way NONE OF YOUR JEEPS SERVED IN WW2. They had 4 cylinder flathead engines and most were built by, here's the BOMB,( FORD and WILLYS) NOT CHRYSLER /GET REAL!!
#537 of 542 Re: Yeah.... Okay. Jeep FTW [jerrald13]
Apr 13, 2012 (8:29 pm)
now this is American Ignorance at its best, first of all your 2012 jeep has been around for a year, before that your brand was owned by someone else because they failed, 3 or 4 years before that, they failed and had to be sold, Chrysler has been sold a number of times, each time because they failed, the whole time the toyota FJ has been around, same owner, no help from anyone, just giving help to others, ok back to the jeep, before chrysler, it was AMC, when it was AMC, thats when they STARTED making jeeps in china where they still make them today, most jeeps were built in china and India and japan since the 80s, ok before AMC FAILURE, Renault own part of them for a while, before that failure, It was Kaiser Jeep, they failed, before them, Kaiser, they failed, then Willys, now none of these made your war time jeeps, by the way Toyota still made there FJs all the way thru all of these, same owner, Ford and Willys-Overland made them during the war I believe.
#538 of 542 Re: Yeah.... Okay. Jeep FTW [jerrald13]
Nov 18, 2012 (9:54 pm)
Look Jereld. Of course if you compare a souped up v8 engine to the Toyota fj cruiser v8 246 hp engine, it's obvious that jeep will win. It's not a fake jeep either. Get your facts straight. Toyota's existence has been around longer than "JEEP". Soo technically if your gay jeep is the fake one here. Toyota is very reliable and it's one of the best motor companies with several of the largest names thru Japanese cars. Of course in the 1940s in the world war an American company had to serve the world with some vehicle, thus leading to the creation of "jeep"... The Toyota "Cj" and "Fj" we're in existence before jeep. Since Japan where Toyota originated was fighting the United States it would look terrible if they imported Japanese cars to fight against them. So jeep and Toyota both served in their militaries but over here in the US jeep is more "popular" because it's AMERICAN made. Toyota is big in Japan because that's where it originated...lol.