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Toyota FJ Cruiser, Jeep Wrangler
#522 of 542 Re: Toyota FJ Cruiser vs Jeep Wrangler [kwk1]
Feb 02, 2011 (5:59 pm)
I find it amazing when people try to put down a toyota thinking it will make there domestic seem better, ok, for your jeep problems, here are few of 1000s
the 1000s of stall at high speed complaints, the 100000s of windows problems, or lets talk about the death wobble among 1000s of other things, the FJ has never had a recall, the jeeps 1000s of them for everything, We wont even get into the cherokee electrical problems, dont even dare try to compare the quality between the jeep and Toyota,
look up to see how many recalls yours has.
here some more jeep problems
I only put this because on a FJ cruiser board, where guys beat there FJs off road, some have crumpled, nothing to the point of not being able to drive, not near as many broken axels of jeeps (you beat anything enough, it will break)
Only telling of SOME, i repeat SOME of the jeep stuff cause your running your mouth about squash, I can post 1000s and 1000s of HUGE problems thats jeeps have in the last 3 years
#523 of 542 Re: Toyota FJ Cruiser vs Jeep Wrangler [Jim1947]
Feb 02, 2011 (6:40 pm)
Just to let you know. The only recall the FJC has had,to my knowledge, was for an incorrect GVW sticker on the door jam. ROCK ON FJ. TOW A JEEP, Drive a CRUISER.
#524 of 542 Re: FJ vs Wrangler [karlbeckham]
Feb 02, 2011 (6:53 pm)
I own both. Jeep is good for off road. FJ is good for both on and off road.
All I can say is if I'm driving to Moab, or any other wheeling location, I'll take the FJ. JEEP people usually have a problem with their egos. And I'm glad that at least I know the comfort of travel in my "FJC". Oh yeah 260h.p. vs. 202h.p. BYE BYE.
#525 of 542 Re: Toyota FJ Cruiser vs Jeep Wrangler [kwk1]
Feb 02, 2011 (7:04 pm)
GOOD LUCK, Pentastar engines for Jeep will be HECHO EN MEXICO. Don't wander too far."BOOM".
#526 of 542 Re: FJ vs Wrangler [fourx4ever]
Feb 03, 2011 (9:24 am)
Depends on the terrain and conditions. You must own a jeep.
#527 of 542 You have to remember
Feb 05, 2011 (4:52 am)
Most people who own a Toyota, have owned many domestics and had there problems with them, and most in the beginning struggled with the fact to buy a foreign car or truck and it took a lot of beatings from the domestics and allot of expensive repairs to convince them, the vast majority of people who buy a Toyota, stick with it for a reason, there by far less costly to own in the long run, they build them the most practical, not the most flashy, not the most eye catching, you don't buy Toyota for style, you buy it for longevity and stableness. The do make a good car and truck, bottom line, ask anyone who who actually owns one. MOST of the ones sold in USA are made in USA, unfortunately, not the FJ though, so when you hear people who own another makes bash Toyota's quality, when anyone can look and see 100s of different recalls on the competitors 4-wheeler, well you Can see how dumb you look. I used to own an old jeep, I liked my old jeep, I miss it. it was unique, you wont hear me bash it. You wont here MOST Toyota owners say anything about any other make unless there provoked, we are content with ours. I just really wonder about these people who never owned a FJ or a Toyota bashing it
#528 of 542 Re: You have to remember [Jim1947]
Feb 05, 2011 (7:21 am)
Good post[Jim1947]. I think most people have a tendency to stick their nose in a groove and follow it no matter where it takes them. There are things about a Jeep that undeniably are better than an FJC. But a person with common sense would think about their percentage of off road driving v.s. their on road driving. FJC is a much better all around vehicle. Better service record so far, more comfortable(IMO), and better ride.
That being said I guess if you rock crawl all day, well then it's Jeep. But if you commute like most and like to go a distance to go wheeling it's my FJC hands down.
THANK GOD FOR FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!
#529 of 542 Jeep Wrangler vs Toyota FJ Cruiser
Feb 05, 2011 (1:21 pm)
We have had a Jeep in the family since 1963. The first was a 1963 Willy's Jeep CJ6 my dad bought from a fire station for 900 dollars. It lacked about every creature comfort that one could imagine and was highly underpowered with an I-4. But durability was never an issue. After an accident with a Chevy Impala; the car was determined totaled by insurance and because the Jeep had a bent fender and bumper the owner of the Impala who happened to be related to my Dad's boss decided to pay for the minor damage to Dad's Jeep and give him the engine from the Impala; a V-8 small block. It was perfect for the Jeep and with just a little work with Uncle Al we were able to fabricate all the parts and mounts needed to make our Jeep a hybrid powerhouse. Fact we had to weight the rear end because it would spin every time he hit the gas. With lock hubs it out performed the IH Scout every time we went off roading. We would routinely have to use the winch to pull out our friends that thought they had a chance behind us. With Jeep in my blood , I now own two Jeeps; the Commander and a brand new Jeep Wrangler with a manual transmission. I agree with the one article that complained of having an underpowered engine with the new V-6 but only at the low end and only with the automatic. I had one of them for a year and returned it for a stick. I have been all over with the stick and with the snow we just had I pulled near 20 vehicles (trucks and cars alike) from ditches. The Jeep Wrangler Sport that I have now has a limited slip rear end and endless torque with the manual transmission. I plowed through 5 foot snow drifts without hesitation and had no problem getting along where no one else could travel. The jury is still out on reliability. I do my own maintenance so I know the job is getting done right and with the best parts. When I got back from Iraq I bought a used 07 automatic; it made it through the 2010 ice storms without missing a beat. I was a little worried that with the soft top a tree might find a direct path to my head but the good Lord decided to spare my cranium from direct tree contact. Just for the record I am a 1SG in the Army so not making it to work has never been an option no matter what I had to do to get there. For years I have been what the Army sees as essential personnel with very few exceptions to that rule. The Jeep Wrangler has been my way for most of my 25 years of service. I am a real outdoors man so no 4X4 that can not go full convertible would do. I was disappointed when Jeep went away from the I-6 for the new engine but I have to admit even though it traded a little of the low end off road power, it made up for it on the highway. I had to face reality that my Wrangler has to also be able to perform on pavement. The new Jeep engine does not bog in even the strongest head winds that Oklahoma has to offer. My new on with a stick has had no problem facing the worst I could throw at it; even off road but in OK it is hard to really put it through an offroad test. I just had to adjust the way I play the clutch. My Dad's CJ 6 had a stick, granny gear, limited slip rear end as well as manual lock hubs for real four wheel drive. My new one has the electronic equivalent along with all the safety features not even heard of in 63; ESP, smart brakes and a power drive system that really does keep you on the road; ice, snow or whatever and an ESP shut off feature when in low lock so I can still play when I want to. As for the Toyota FJ Cruiser, I do not have much to say about it. Toyota's have grown in reliability so if it is what you want go for it but if like me you are in to Jeeps then from my experience they perform and well I like the way it looks.
#530 of 542 Re: Jeep Wrangler vs Toyota FJ Cruiser [rock1toc]
Feb 27, 2011 (11:02 am)
If you get a chance race an FJC of comparable stature. There's no way you can make up for 50 h.p. . I've raced all forms of jk jeep wranglers and haven't even had a close race yet.(you'll have to turbocharge it to get close to the same horsepower.) That being said, the jeep does have its following and it is a good off-road vehicle no doubt. At least some of the models are worthy. BUT, being a new jeep owner, good luck with Chrysler and their lack of customer service satisfaction. Quite frankly they suck! Remember one thing, comparing old jeeps with new jeeps is like comparing apples to oranges as far as reliability is concerned. You could beat the crap out of an old jeep and they'd still drag your butt out of the woods. Now BOOM and your done. And once again if it's under warranty, Oh Well.
B.T.Y. Thank you for your service to country. HUAH!
Feb 27, 2011 (12:19 pm)
Owned Toyotas with no engine problems. Loved that little non supercharged Previa motor except for high wind days. Owned , we believe the first Liberty CRD in N. TX. - should have had a Cummins diesel in it. 32K miles on a 2009 JKU Rubicon. Some small issues and needed to add a Hayden tranny cooler. Hayden made in Australia others brag about B&M-believe both owned by Four Seasons with location in Coppell TX unless my one brain cell is out of its' socket.
Before ordering ours, the dealer had a JKU Rubicon on the lot that a FJ owner kept taking for days for test drives. We didn't buy it from under him after he brought it back a second time. Third time out, he bought it.
Never drove the FJ, needed four real doors like better_half's H3. Just spent yesterday driving hers all day and loved it. Then jumped in the Rubicon for a late catfish dinner. Still love the wrangler.