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Replying to: m6vx (Oct 11, 2007 8:05 am) My point well made. Just because it made it over some trail does not make the FJC or the Jeep Liberty amazing off-roaders. I could probably get a deepfreeze over the Rubcon trail too, does that make it a good off-road machine???
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Replying to: fourx4ever (Oct 11, 2007 9:34 am) What kind of lift would you put on it? 
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Replying to: m6vx (Oct 17, 2007 6:01 am) The gearing in the jeep, the crawl and low end grunt just make it much much better. If you really want to play get the rubi. |
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Replying to: makaser13 (Sep 29, 2007 8:03 pm) Do you think the newness is wearing off yet? I see the October 07 FJC sales are off 25% from October 2006. You think everyone that just wanted a different looking CUV has got it? Too many negatives for the FJ to be anything but a novelty vehicle. Do you hate the suicide doors yet? I disliked the ones in my 2005 GMC PU so much, that I sold that turkey. It was a hybrid so I got more than it was worth from a private party. If I wanted an all out off road vehicle without spending a fortune on upgrades, I would still buy the Wrangler. Truth is I would not buy either of them without a diesel engine. Both are gas hogs.
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Hi all, I'm in need of some assistance. I have a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4, 4 door, 4.0 L, V6. My rear passenger tail lamp is out. I've tried replacing it and it still won't work. I've checked on my fuses and they are all working. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Replying to: omega6 (Nov 23, 2007 8:27 pm) Try this thread with a search. You may find your answer. cavman2x, "Jeep Grand Cherokee Maintenance and Repair" #1, 1 Apr 2001 3:16 pm |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 23, 2007 6:27 pm) Sales numbers are certainly not a reflections of quality. The Ford Edsel in the 60's was a very well built car in the day but people hated the styling so it was a major sales flop. I also think that the slowing of FJC sales is mostly to do with the fact that the fad is wearing off. Remember when we first started this post I said the FJ Cruiser is a lot like the PT Cruiser in that they are fad vehicles. I said the FJC sales would drop rapidly at the 2 year mark and we’re not at 2 years yet but trend is playing out my prediction. The demand for fad vehicles is always crazy at the beginning even though vehicles like the PT Cruiser isn’t much of a hot rod and the FJ Cruiser isn't a super great off-roader; they have the very different style that attracted a market segment. Now here we are coming up on 2 years since the FJC came out. The word is out that the raunchy killer off-road ads Toyota made with it are not possible with the show room machine. While it's build quality seems to be good, the design is not even close for optimum off-road use, and does not follow in the foot steps of the original FJ-40. It’s one thing to come out with fad styling and sell them like hotcakes for a couple years, but to keep the sales there has to be substance behind the vehicle, it has to prove to be very useful. Toyota told us at the beginning the FJC was going be a killer off-road machine to be serious competition to the Wrangler. When it debuted, some of us took a look at it and knew right away it would never keep up to the Wrangler and certainly not with a Wrangler Rubicon; while others had to do the off-road comparison to find this out. Toyota didn’t deliver on their promise. The hard core off-roaders are buying Wranglers, by now all the Faddy people have their FJCs, and so sales are in a nose dive.
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Replying to: fourx4ever (Nov 24, 2007 6:41 am) |
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Just found this forum, obviously an old thread - anyway... I was at the toyota dealer getting stuff for my '02 Tac and I went through the new FJC. Geez, that back seat is indeed claustrophic - no functional windows. just staring at the front headrests. Glad I'd be driving. The plastic throughout and underneath I see as problematic. I don't know. I've had Cruisers in the past: a '73 FJ40 and a '76 FJ 40. The '73 was basically stock and pristine - North Carolina vehicle orginally. (I sold it to pay for kid's tuition.) We also had a '91 FJ80 - great vehicle; had it all over the US. Gotta say, however, that FJC doesn't impress me. My FJs were basically tractors with multiple seats, and they did need occasional attention (they weren't bullet-proof), but they did what they were designed to do. Personally, I'm considering a Rubicon of '04 vintage. They seem more akin to the old FJ except w/ manners and some technology thrown in - and after my 40s, technology is not a bad thing - not opposed to it at all. I've got no complaints w/ my present Tac, however, except it's a bit light on a wet road - but it's not bad on the forest service roads here in the Blue Ridge, and I certainly don't mind the mpg in the 20s.
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