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Toyota FJ Cruiser vs Jeep Wrangler

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Re: Pacer / FJC? [fourx4ever] by wideglide
Feb 06, 2007 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: fourx4ever (Feb 06, 2007 10:17 am)

Actually, GM is considering exactly that for future vehicles. Electric motors driving the wheels - exclusively - with a gas or diesel motor powering a generator to run the motors (or maybe even a hydrogen fuel cell providing the electricity). They're talking 640 miles from 12 a gallon tank... pretty impressive fuel economy.
 
  • Chevrolet Volt Concept
     
    And no, it's not a new idea by any means. That's how diesel locomotives operate, the diesel powers a generator, and the wheels are driven by massive electric motors.
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    Re: Pacer / FJC? [wideglide] by fourx4ever
    Feb 06, 2007 (2:43 pm)
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    Replying to: wideglide (Feb 06, 2007 12:10 pm)

    Yeah this idea has actually been around since the 1940s when diesel locomotives came out as you mentioned. However it's an excellent idea and it works very well because the diesel engine can be run at it's ideal RPM for peak efficiency no matter what.
      
    You know most of the so called 'advanced automotive' ideas are not new. I remember when everyone thought that overhead cams were so 'revolutionary' in the early 80's LOL! Little did most people know this idea dates back to the 1930's and Jeep actually had a production overhead cam motor in the early 60's. What's old is new
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    Re: Pacer / FJC? [fourx4ever] by steve_ HOST
    Feb 06, 2007 (4:48 pm)
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    Replying to: fourx4ever (Feb 06, 2007 2:43 pm)

    most of the so called 'advanced automotive' ideas are not new
     
    The "hemi" type engine dates back to 1905. Of course, the first fax machine beat that by 50 years.
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    Hemi by fourx4ever
    Feb 07, 2007 (6:33 am)
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    Yeah and I believe Chrysler's first HEMI was actually an aircraft engine that was intended for a WW II fighter plane. Interesting stuff
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    You can stick an FJ40 by gagrice
    Apr 24, 2007 (7:33 pm)
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    Digging out some pictures and came across this one from one of the Tierra del Sol runs in the 1960s. The CJs went through this and I thought I could also. Too much over hang in front. I got out no damage. Would a new FJ fare so well? FJs were very rare. Out of 300 some vehicles I think there was one other Toyota LC.
     
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    Probably not as well by fourx4ever
    Apr 25, 2007 (5:22 am)
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    Wow, I would have thought the old FJ-40 would have had the same approach angle as a CJ. Interesting. The new FJC certainly would not fair as well as your old FJ-40.
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    Wrangler sales double the FJ Cruiser by gagrice
    Jul 09, 2007 (5:12 pm)
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    I think the public has made it clear with their wallets which is the off-road vehicle to own. The Wrangler is selling more than twice the FJ sales. YTD the FJ sits at 29k the Wrangler at 65k sold. The Wrangler is selling about 11k per month and the FJ is around 4500 per month. It is the blind spots and those horrible doors. The only reason the FJ sells at all is the odd ball look. If Jeep starts selling the Wrangler diesel over here I will buy one for my fun vehicle.
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    Sales by fourx4ever
    Jul 10, 2007 (6:57 am)
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    Yeah I hear ya. I guess that pretty much sums it up. Upon the mountains of other evidence about the Wrangler vs. the FJC and how the Jeep is so much more capable. I'm with you on the diesel thing. Although I'm very impressed with the new Wrangler I can't bring myself to buy it with that V6. I have the 2005 Rubicon now and it has the 4.0L - the V6 would be a step down. However put a diesel in and I'll be there waiting to sign.
     
    By the way, wanna see a really cool Jeep video? I found this on Youtube. Talk about punishing!
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIS7VJz47kY
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    I got em both by knollibe
    Aug 13, 2007 (8:56 pm)
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    I have my 2000 TJ for rock crawling and going any damn place I point it. And I have my FJ cruiser for when I want to pack more than a lunch box to take with me. My Tj will go thru almost any canyon rock garden and suffer very little. the FJ and the like with the exposed sheet metal will cry with every scrape. My advice...Buy an FJ to tow your jeep out to the playground.
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    Re: I got em both [knollibe] by fourx4ever
    Aug 14, 2007 (5:25 am)
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    Replying to: knollibe (Aug 13, 2007 8:56 pm)

    knollibe,
     
    What would you say to the people who buy the 4-door 2007 Wrangler, with more space and off-road capability than the FJ, to tow their killer (not even street legal) off-road TJ to the 'play ground'?

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