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#312 of 542 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited discontinued?
Sep 22, 2006 (10:53 am)
Has the 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited been discontinued for 2007? All I see on Jeep's website is regular Wrangler, or 4 door Unlimited. I currently have a '92 Cherokee (4.0L, 5 speed manual - kind of rare itself!) that is getting a little long in the tooth, not to mention rusting away. I also wanted more off-road capabilities (lots of great trails here in the mountains of PA), and was thinking of an Unlimited Rubicon. Having a wife and kid, I need at least a little cargo space, hence the Unlimited, rather than a standard Wrangler. I liked the 2 door Unlimted a lot, but don't care for the look of the 4 door. I'm also not too keen on Jeep's switch to a V6 in place of the torquey I6.... I guess the best thing to do is keep an eye on Ebay and local dealers for a nice '05-'06 2 DR Unlimited Rubicon.
#313 of 542 Re: 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited discontinued? [wideglide]
Sep 22, 2006 (8:53 pm)
Yes the 2 door Wrangler is discontinued for '07 and it sucks. I want a 2 door unlimited rubicon also. Especially if it came with a diesel. The Jeep wrangler board would probably be a better place for this discussion.
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#314 of 542 Re: 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited discontinued? [wideglide]
Sep 25, 2006 (7:45 am)
Yes, for now anyway, it is true that there is no 2 Dr Unlimited Wrangler on the books, however that can of course change.
The thing I'm really waiting for is the diesel wrangler Rubicon. The rumblings that it will come next year continue to get louder and louder. I Guess jeep wants to keep the coveted position of producuing the worlds 'most capable factory 4x4 in history' - we will see where this trail leads.
#315 of 542 Re: 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited discontinued? [wideglide]
Sep 25, 2006 (11:45 am)
"The thing I'm really waiting for is the diesel wrangler Rubicon"
Not sure about a diesel... is it a very high-torque motor? 4 or 6 cylinder? There are some gas stations around here that don't carry diesel, and if it's a turbo diesel, there are extra reliabilty and maintenence issues.
"I Guess jeep wants to keep the coveted position of producuing the worlds 'most capable factory 4x4 in history"
I think some of Jeep's management should be castrated, for doing the same to Jeep! The Liberty and the softening of the GC was bad enough, but the car-like Compass?!? That is NOT a Jeep! The fact ALL Jeeps were Trail Rated said something (though I wondered how they ever got a Liberty up the Rubicon trail - or what was left after they did). Now being a Jeep means nothing. Yes, there is a market for those vehicles, but it's already saturated for one, and they could have built and marketed it as a Dodge, and kept the Jeep brand undiluted.
#316 of 542 Re: Tellico - Cruisers Rule the day [steenh]
Oct 13, 2006 (3:19 pm)
>Don't think the Rubicon has that technology available.
It does. It is a standard equipment on JK on every trim, not just 07 Rubicon - so you do not have to buy 2 upgrade packages (or hack it yourself) to get it.
It work just as well, if not better. And on Rubicon you will also get rear and front locker (and they DO work better in many situations) and and electronic sway bar disconnect (so you can disconnect it for articulation, and connect it back on an off-camber pitch). And you do get 4:1 transfer, standard MT tires, standard rocker protection..
Off-road FJ with ATRAC vs cheaper Rubicon is a no contest in the favor of Rubicon.
#317 of 542 Re: 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited discontinued? [wideglide]
Oct 16, 2006 (11:10 am)
I agree they should be castrated for making the Compas! That thing is total garbage! It degrades the Jeep name to the same level as a Rav4 or Honda CRV.
However unlike Honda, Jeep and Toyota still do build some capable 4x4s. The new Wrangler has only gotten better; pushing the 4x4 limits, however I do have my reservations about that minivan V6 - they need a diesel.
You're right about the Liberty and Grand Cherokee, they are both watered down turds of what they once were. However thier countreparts from all the other makers are just as bad. Just thank God that the DaimlerChrysler morons in marketing didn't get ahold of the Wrangler too.
#318 of 542 Re: 2 Door Wrangler Unlimited discontinued? [wideglide]
Oct 16, 2006 (11:34 am)
You might now be able to say that Jeep makes a FULL LINE of SUV 4x4s: From the most capable that you can buy to the worst piece of road debris to ever block the trail! (al la Compass)
#319 of 542 Re: Tellico - Cruisers Rule the day [dae]
Oct 16, 2006 (1:40 pm)
I saw a rubicon and an FJC go up the same rocky creek bed... tough climb. Neither made it easily... 20 minutes or so for each with a lot of spotting. Both made it though and there was no obvious off-road advantage for either.
So, equal off-road and you can get Toyota quality vs. Jeep quality... maybe there is a contest?
#320 of 542 Re: Tellico - Cruisers Rule the day [steenh]
Oct 17, 2006 (6:16 am)
I saw a Rubicon and an FJC go down 34 street in my city - They both made it. It doesn't meant they have the same 4x4 potential. If you have a novice behind the wheel of the more capable machine it certainly hurt's it's perceived performance.
#321 of 542 Re: Tellico - Cruisers Rule the day [fourx4ever]
Oct 17, 2006 (10:04 am)
Actually the "novice" was in the FJC in this case though your point is a good one.
This ride wasn't 34th street though. It was a pretty tough climb that challenged even the built 40's.
One thing that has been pretty well established is that the FJC isn't a "mall cruiser". There are tons of them off road. Do the stock ones go where built up 40's go? No. Are they are going where stock Rubies are going? Yes. At least that's what I'm seeing on all of my outings.
If you are going to ORV's, I'm sure you are seeing them as well.