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Toyota FJ Cruiser, Jeep Wrangler
#28 of 542 Wranglers are a crappy pair of jeans
Apr 01, 2006 (2:12 pm)
First off. The FJ Cruiser is in fact a solid vehicle. Anyone who knows anything about wheelin' knows about the FJ40. And no one is stupid enough to argue with Toyota's reputation for quality and reliability -- it's second to no one!!! AND ITS NOT A JEEP -- I mean "HEEP"!!!
As far as first impressions go, I am still not a huge fan of the large C pillars. That being said, GO SEE ONE IN PERSON!!! I did. It is much better looking than in the pics. Also, I test drove one last week, and then immediately placed a deposit for one. PLENTY OF POWER and decent cargo room. I do plan on doing some upgrades, however, including an ARB bull bar and warn winch; Donahoe coil overs, possibly OME in the rear; and American Racing Mojave teflon rims matted to P285 BFG Mud Terrain tires (maybe beadlocks instead; cannot decide). Anyway, it should be a pretty good rig when I am done with it.
Finally, a word regarding off road capability and Jeeps. People seem to defend their CJs Tjs, etc. like one of their own children. A little hint: the Wrangler is not the end all, be all small platform trail and rock rig; that would be the LAND ROVER DEFENDER 90, which I am proud to own. Check the stats on that rig; they're quite nice. I just couldn't wait till the new Defender comes out, which should probably stomp all over the new Heep Rubicon just as my 1994 D90 ST does. Thus the FJ in the interim. (only other vehicle I would consider is a Galaendewagen).
So, I plan on keeping my D90 (nothing like going topless in the summer) and adding the FJ Cruiser primarily because of its better amenities and reliability factor. With both of these rigs I will be unstoppable!!!
#29 of 542 Re: FJ [goducks1]
Apr 01, 2006 (5:26 pm)
Hey I've got a question for you regarding the repairs you got done to your Wrangler. I have to get both front and rear pinion seals replaced on mine. What should I pay to get those replaced? Also, in case you might know I have a 4.0 Auto 97 Wrangler. A second or so after I pull out i get a rattle from under my seats near the transmission. It only happens when i accelerate hard. Any suggestions?
Apr 09, 2006 (2:54 pm)
First, t26redd check the problems forum to find out how to fix your junk, but here you go anyway. The pinion seals are pretty easy to replace, just mark the yoke and nut before you begin so you can get the same pre-load when you put it back together ($50 per end is a good price). The rattle is probably exhaust components coming in contact with the cross member.
Now, I drove a FJ yesterday...have owned all types of Jeeps over the past 30 years. While I covet the Toyota's quality and on road ride, it cannot fill my need to take to top down, clearly see all the vehicle's corners and achieve maximum articulation with a mild lift (OME 2.5"). I rate the FJ as poor in line of sight over the hood and out the back corners. Yes, the FJ's insides are cool and out pace the TJ, but the TJ we are comparing it too is nearly 10 a year old design. I look forward to wheeling my TJ beside an FJ on the trail one day to get a better idea of its capabilities. Dizzle65, if you are actually buying one and want to wheel it let me know when and where. If you bring the D90, we can enjoy our tops being down while we fix them on the trail.
#31 of 542 If we are talking off road
Apr 09, 2006 (9:48 pm)
It is hard to beat the Rubicon. Even with an older FJ-40 there is a weight penalty. But if we are talking on road then there are a lot of choices better than either one. The Rubicon is like an off road vehicle domesticated for street use and the FJ is like a street vehicle converted to go off road. If you spend a lot of weekends out with the other dirt guys get a Jeep. If you go out once in a while or plan on taking the family the FJ would fit the bill. The New FJ looks more like the Liberty on paper so it is hardly like comparing apples to apples when you toss in the Rubicon. If you are into off roading the Rubicon would seen the better starting point because of the weight and the greater number of aftermarket parts suppliers. But we will have to wait till we see more on the trail to tell. Just how I see it with what experience I have.
Apr 16, 2006 (6:42 am)
Just got back from Moab and there were a few FJ's there. They looked low but then again most Jeeps had modifications to them and some were unreal. There was something that looked like a cross between a FJ and a Hummer. The FJ's looked like toys but neat. I hear you can set the cruise control in low range (just kidding). I'll stick to my 06 wrangler unlimited
#33 of 542 Re: Moab [surfcat2000]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 16, 2006 (6:52 am)
How was the weather? Looks like they had record rainfall yesterday just to the northwest of Moab. Was there an event or just the usual slickrock visitors?
It's pretty wild just to cruise the grocery store parking lot there; you may see a Unimog next to a Pinzgauer next to a Wrangler that requires a step ladder to get in.
#34 of 542 Re: Moab [steve_]
Apr 16, 2006 (8:57 am)
It was THE big event. 4x4's everywhere. at 9am they all split into their safari groups all over town. I heard the BLM permits cost over 50k, weather was good till the end of the week. I plowed snow at a ski resort in Southern Utah for 6 years in a 406 Unimog. 6 speed 4 speed transfer case reverse was in and out so I could upshift in reverse and diff lockers. what a machine but a beast to work on. It had reduction gears like the old VW buses
#35 of 542 Re: Moab [surfcat2000]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 16, 2006 (9:11 am)
Hey, you should set up your page and post some pics. Just log in with your Edmunds id and password and you're in.
I'm heading to Utah soon for some camping so hope the good weather kicks back in.
Apr 19, 2006 (10:42 am)
I'm thinking of buying a 4X4 as a second car for fishing/sking etc. Looked at both the Toyota FJ and a 2006 Jeep unlimited. Honestly if you look at the price in Canadian; toyota $29K, Jeep $32K, it's a no brainer. The Toyota is twice the truck, if you look at everything you get, from a larger more powerful engine to all the standard features your comparing a Cadillac to a Chevette. That being said, I didn't like all the plastic on the FJ and the Jeep is more of a "guys" truck. I'm going to wait for the 2007 before making up my mind.
Apr 20, 2006 (2:06 pm)
In this comparison between TJ and FJ I think someone recently best said it:
The TJ (Rubicon) is designed to be an off-road vehicle with reasonable road ability. The FJ is designed as a road vehicle with reasonable off-road ability.
So it's a matter of choice: If you really want to go furthest into no-man's land then buy the Jeep. If have a family and need a daily driver that can still do some off-road then buy the FJ. But to compare them head to head really makes no sense. The room and comfort of the FJ exceeds that of the TJ and the TJ would kill the FJ off-road.