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You are in the Toyota FJ Cruiser
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Toyota FJ Cruiser, Jeep Wrangler
#261 of 542 Re: Pay me! [steenh]
Jul 18, 2006 (8:05 am)
I guess the FJ logo is not at the left of the page anymore. I did a search for the venues you guys are talking about but I didn't come up with anything yet.
Chrysler has had a promotion for several years now where they let potential customers drive all the Jeep models over an off-road coarse. I drove several models over an extensive course when the Power Tour came to my city in 2004. And, each year we have the auto show, Jeep has had a 'you off-road it' course set up where you could test drive Wranglers on steep inclines offset whoopdys etc. It seemed to have the right effect on the buying public, as many seemed to go away very impressed.
#263 of 542 Re: Pay me! [fourx4ever]
Jul 18, 2006 (10:14 am)
Sorry for making such a general statement. I wasn't sure what the "trail teams" were composed of. I guess Toyota employees (even if hired just for this purpose) makes sense. Um, I'm available, Toyota...
Anyway, even as a long-term Jeep owner, I was thrilled to see the FJ come back, even with a street-bias. Jeep must recognize that there's a market for more comfortable 4x4's, since the new JK is getting a much changed interior.
#264 of 542 Toyotas versus muscle cars
Jul 18, 2006 (10:33 am)
Well, I was doing a video search for the Top Gear clip that used to be on Google video (where they basically tried to destroy a late-seventies Toyota 4x4 by drowning, burning, dropping, etc., and they can't! - seriously, after being set on fire, it still starts. It's unreal.) Anyway, I learned to drive in one (I believe a 76?), which is now running around Oklahoma somewhere as an ice-cream truck, so it was nostalgic for me. And, since that clip was disabled, I started checking out the others. You will not believe how this thing moves. What did he put in it? I don't recall mine ever actually passing 50mph...I think this is a T100, but I'm not sure. Maybe you guys can tell better than I can.
#265 of 542 Re: Toyotas versus muscle cars [drewmeister]
Jul 18, 2006 (3:32 pm)
Drew, Nice video.
I have a video of an early 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (5.9L) spanking a mustang. The Jeep turned in the low 12s. I guess there were some engine mods but it was still the engine the vehicle came with apparently.
Sounds like that TOY truck has a lot of boost on a turbo or super charger under the hood.
#266 of 542 Re: Pay me! [drewmeister]
Jul 18, 2006 (3:41 pm)
'Jeep must recognize that there's a market for more comfortable 4x4's, since the new JK is getting a much changed interior. '
I don't know man, I think Jeep has gone more than far enough in turning it's models into toothless, cushy-cutie, soccer mom rides. The Commander, Grand Cherokee, Liberty are all examples of WUSS U V's as far as I'm concerned. No need to wreck the wrangler too.
#267 of 542 Re: Pay me! [steve_]
Jul 18, 2006 (9:21 pm)
Ready to go boar hunting and mushroom picking Gagrice?
Hard to look at meat in the store with what I have read so far. I like wild boar. Had it in Hawaii a few years back. I think I'll just raise a couple goats for meat.
steenh, I am digging through my storage looking for the old FJ40 photos. I took lots of pictures back then for 4X4 & Dune Buggy News.
Jul 19, 2006 (8:30 am)
Don't know if any of you care, but here are some pics of a trip I did last year in the mountains with my '81 304 V8 CJ-5. It's pretty well factory with the exception that I replaced the 31" tires with 32" and of course left the suspension stock.
#269 of 542 Re: Pay me! [fourx4ever]
Jul 19, 2006 (8:34 am)
I see more "men" driving that boxy looking Commander than women.I wouldn't say it's wussy more like a Nike shoe box with some truck wheels.I've always wanted a Wrangler ever since I was in the Army.Ended up with a Bronco II,I like the new design of the Wrangler it keeps it's ruggedness while shaping up the sharp edges.Just like a diamond in the rough...but I like my kidneys,so the newly re-design 07 is probably why now I'm willing to purchase one.
#270 of 542 Re: Pay me! [lauryn2000]
Jul 19, 2006 (11:24 am)
Yes the commander is like a Nike shoe box so it has the image of being rugged but when you look close you will see otherwise. Perhaps more men do drive it but beyond being sexist, there are a lot of factors that have brought me to the conclusion that it's a sham. Things like IFS, the fake plastic allen head screws in the headlight assembly and on the flares. The stupid split in the rear flare where the back doors open, the lack of a manual transmission option and the list goes on...
Yes the new Wrangler will be far from a soccer mom's status symbol, and it will incorporate (some) features that will make it a better off-roader than even today's Wrangler but it has also taken a huge step backward with the deletion of the 4.0L and that crummy mini-van V6 they haplessly dropped in its place.
And really; you like your kidneys??? Come on Lauyn, what are you 95 years old??? I have a 2005 Rubicon and that 1981 CJ-5 in the post above. The CJ-5's 83" wheel base and leaf spring stack make it bouncy, but not at all unbearable. The Rubicon's 93" wheel base, soft springs and multi link suspension make it ride like a dream in comparison. You have to remember these are off-road vehicles - they are meant for the real thing; work off-road. You've been in the army, so tell me how was the ride in the 2 1/2 ton 6x6's??? I know they don't feel like a Cadillac right? but they're meant for work, like a (real) Jeep. At least the new Wrangler mostly holds true to the original idea and image of the Jeep – those other things aren’t Jeeps.