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#714 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [driver56] by jfritsch Jun 27, 2007 (4:13 pm)
Replying to: driver56 (Jun 27, 2007 3:18 pm) The Colorado definitely has a styling thing going on. There was a major advancement in the midsize segment in quality and refinement in 05, with the Toyota, Frontier and to a certain extent the Ridgeline proceeding to a new level with the GM offering being a S-10+. Fit, finish and build is just not there, more competitive with most offerings before 2005, but they missed the next cycle by beating the others to market by a year. The towing, I-5 etc is a further negative. One thing is for sure, if GM has its manufacturing together and is getting 23-25000 for its 4wd crew offering like the others they are making a fortune. Ugly is too subjective, especially with trucks but GM has always had the sheet metal advantage, there are many truck buyers who won't consider an import, and with its 9 mo head start at the intro, has a lot more of these on the road than the other newer designs combined. If I could get $9000 off instead of 4000-6000 off like the others later this year I would buy one. --jjf You're not too opinionated are ya'? I happen to see the new gen Frontier as a good looking truck. And yes, I do own one. I also realize it is very subjective, all that looks "good" or "ugly". Now that I've owned it for a while, this little Titan just gets better lookin' because it's such a performer. It does everything I ask it to and beyond. Of all the trucks I've driven, going back 35 years, this is the Champ. That said, I seriously looked at the Taco, it was a fairly close second choice, but I see the Taco as a relatively unadorned over-priced truck. Liked it, just not enough. I had hopes for the GM twins, but was dissapointed with their I-5. Nice looking to my eye, could use a little refinement. I wish G.M. good luck. I bought what suited me the most, I'm happy with that, I hope everyone else does just that. Cheers!
#715 of 751 Sport Trac vs. Ridgeline by got1b Jul 08, 2007 (12:20 pm)
Not sure which way to go, I like aspects of both, Ridgeline RTX Price, driving and interior vs. ST's exterior styling, bed, frame, and 4X4 low. According to consumer reviews, its seems ST owners are happier, yet most auto reviews gush over the Ridgeline and are lukewarm over the new ST. Has anyone compared the two? Which did yo buy? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jul 08, 2007 1:27 pm) rsholland (Jul 08, 2007 2:26 pm) jfritsch (Jul 08, 2007 2:22 pm)
#716 of 751 Re: Sport Trac vs. Ridgeline [got1b] by thegraduate Jul 08, 2007 (1:27 pm)
Replying to: got1b (Jul 08, 2007 12:20 pm) It would seem the Ridgeline is the non-trucker's truck. Handling like a car (which is why most auto reviews gush - it handles and rides similarly to an Accord), a lockable in-bed trunk, and a roomy interior. It will be the more refined vehicle than the SportTrac (especially the coarse-sounding 4.0L V6 in the SportTrac). If you need more "truck" and less "car" though, a ST may be just the ticket. Replies to this message: rsholland (Jul 08, 2007 2:26 pm)
#717 of 751 Re: Sport Trac vs. Ridgeline [got1b] by jfritsch Jul 08, 2007 (2:22 pm)
Replying to: got1b (Jul 08, 2007 12:20 pm) If true 4wd performance isn't that important, the Ridgeline is hard to beat for $23000 (RTX). Its a great vehicle for what most would do with a mid size truck. If you really need 4wd, the Tacoma, Frontier, or a Full Size may be the way to go, as I'm not sure how the 4wd is compared to the others on the Sportrac. Good Luck --jjf Not sure which way to go, I like aspects of both, Ridgeline RTX Price, driving and interior vs. ST's exterior styling, bed, frame, and 4X4 low. According to consumer reviews, its seems ST owners are happier, yet most auto reviews gush over the Ridgeline and are lukewarm over the new ST. Has anyone compared the two? Which did yo buy?
#718 of 751 Re: Sport Trac vs. Ridgeline [thegraduate] by rsholland Jul 08, 2007 (2:26 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 08, 2007 1:27 pm) "If you need more "truck" and less "car" though, a ST may be just the ticket." Yet, if you need to haul some plywood, the Ridgeline is the better choice, as it will accept 4' wide paneling flat on the floor between the rear wheel wells. Not so for the SportTrac. Also, I believe the Ridgeline's 1,550 or so pounds payload is a higher than that of the SportTrac. The only major issues I have with the Ridgeline is that there is no low range in the 4x4, and that it (and the Sport Trac too) has a temp spare tire. Here's an Edmunds comparo of the base models of both these two: http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmunds/VehicleComparison?op=0&tab=pricing&isbasecar=false&modelid=&styleid=&refid=&maxvehicles=5&vehicleindex=&removestyle=&numCars=2&just=center&disclaimer=false&modelId0=100516825&styleId0=100756780&modelId1=100505388&styleId1=100693726 Bob
#719 of 751 B4000 14 Looooonnnnnggg years by moparbad Jul 25, 2007 (1:37 pm)
Mazda B4000 I nearly forgot the B4000 even existed. Very dated considering the current competition. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jul 25, 2007 7:00 pm)
#720 of 751 Re: B4000 14 Looooonnnnnggg years [moparbad] by thegraduate Jul 25, 2007 (7:00 pm)
Replying to: moparbad (Jul 25, 2007 1:37 pm) Yep. Include the Ranger in that too. At least they've updated the engine power (if little else). Too bad even that isn't competitive anymore, in this land of 240+ horsepower V6 midsizers.
#721 of 751 Dodge Dakota by poncho167 Oct 21, 2007 (4:01 am)
Auto rumor has it that Chrysler will drop 5 models in the next year possibly including the Dakota p/u. Though I wouldn't buy one, I think overall the Dakota offers the most options for the money. You can get 4-6 and 8 cylinder offerings. I am still not too crazy about the grills on the Dodge trucks, and the newly styled Dakota front end isn't still to big. The Dakota & Ram p/u's are pretty close in size so they is probably the main reason for it's probably dismissal. Ford's Ranger is also supposed to be history. I wonder if anyone other than some foreign import from India or elsewhere will have a compact truck again. Replies to this message: xscout (Oct 27, 2007 2:49 pm) thegraduate (Oct 27, 2007 3:31 pm) kipk (Oct 28, 2007 2:43 am) poncho167 (Oct 28, 2007 4:50 am) kipk (Oct 29, 2007 5:22 am) xscout (Oct 30, 2007 12:30 pm) and 1 more...
#722 of 751 Re: Dodge Dakota [poncho167] by xscout Oct 27, 2007 (2:49 pm)
Replying to: poncho167 (Oct 21, 2007 4:01 am) The Dakota pickup is not going anywhere in the near future. Chrysler just did a redesign for 2008 and a big horsepower jump for the available 4.7 V8 engine. What is Ford doing with the Ranger though? They have been running redesigns on that truck for 24 years now! Time for an all new Ranger. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Oct 27, 2007 3:31 pm) kipk (Oct 28, 2007 2:43 am) poncho167 (Oct 28, 2007 4:50 am) kipk (Oct 29, 2007 5:22 am) xscout (Oct 30, 2007 12:30 pm) jfritsch (Oct 30, 2007 6:03 pm)
#723 of 751 Re: Dodge Dakota [xscout] by thegraduate Oct 27, 2007 (3:31 pm)
Replying to: xscout (Oct 27, 2007 2:49 pm) To me the Ranger is kind of a special case being the only "compact" truck left. One has to look at how many more sales would be gained by putting millions into a new Ranger. It becomes a matter of investment and output. Replies to this message: kipk (Oct 28, 2007 2:43 am)