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#704 of 751 Re: 2008 Colorado [donn2390] by poncho167 Jun 24, 2007 (8:31 am)
Replying to: donn2390 (Jun 18, 2007 2:06 pm) "I found the site, and I found the full size Chevy's, but can't find Colorado. The site is new to me, I couldn't find an esy way to look other than go page by page... I'll keep trying to figure it out. Thanks for the tip.... If you still haven't found the particular article on the V8 Colorado, just go back to it and in the top right hand corner search type-Colorado V8, and it will bring a couple things up.
#705 of 751 V8 Colorado by donn2390 Jun 24, 2007 (11:31 am)
Thanks for helping a computer dummy find the information on the '08 with a V-8. Good articles.... I hope the V-8 comes to pass. I have been Colorado shopping since '06, but have delayed the purchase waiting until I could pay cash. A home remodel has slowed my progress, and I'm glad now that it did. The problems with the 04, 05, and 06 heads make me very happy that I waited until that problem was fixed, now hearing about the V-8 makes me especially happy to have waited. The mileage should be at least as good as the I-5. It will be interesting to see what the tariff will be for the V-8..! I don't really need the extra HP, but what the heck, it will be my last vehicle.. Looks like a Christmas present for the old man..!! Replies to this message: jfritsch (Jun 24, 2007 4:26 pm) poncho167 (Jun 25, 2007 4:31 am) jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 5:09 am) and 6 more...
#706 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [donn2390] by jfritsch Jun 24, 2007 (4:26 pm)
Replying to: donn2390 (Jun 24, 2007 11:31 am) If you must go with a chevy (gm card points etc) or need a V8. Please consider the Silverado Full size (Truck of the year) where gm put the effort. The Colorado is about last in its class in the mid size behind the Tacoma, Frontier and disregarding true 4wd, the Ridgeline. A quick inspection and test drive of them will make this obvious. With deals of about $4000-6000 off MSRP for them it makes them a no brainer at $23000-25000. The Full Size Chevy Silverado Crew has a turning circle only about 2' wider than the Colorado, is much higher in quality, takes on all competitiors in its class, Powerful V8, and is becoming available at $7000-9000 off MSRP as the summer progresses (as it did last year). At 25000 or so for a 33000 truck, it would be hard to fork out about the same for the Colorado, unless you have a lot of GM points and you really really really need a mid size. Test drive em and find out. Since you're Santa put something shiny in the stocking instead of a lump of coal. Good Luck --jjf Thanks for helping a computer dummy find the information on the '08 with a V-8. Good articles.... I hope the V-8 comes to pass. I have been Colorado shopping since '06, but have delayed the purchase waiting until I could pay cash. A home remodel has slowed my progress, and I'm glad now that it did. The problems with the 04, 05, and 06 heads make me very happy that I waited until that problem was fixed, now hearing about the V-8 makes me especially happy to have waited. The mileage should be at least as good as the I-5. It will be interesting to see what the tariff will be for the V-8..! I don't really need the extra HP, but what the heck, it will be my last vehicle.. Looks like a Christmas present for the old man..!! Replies to this message: poncho167 (Jun 25, 2007 4:31 am) jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 5:09 am) driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 6:58 am) and 2 more... poncho167 (Jun 27, 2007 5:21 am) and 2 more...
#707 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [jfritsch] by poncho167 Jun 25, 2007 (4:31 am)
Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 24, 2007 4:26 pm) "If you must go with a chevy (gm card points etc) or need a V8. Please consider the Silverado Full size (Truck of the year) where gm put the effort. The Colorado is about last in its class in the mid size behind the Tacoma, Frontier and disregarding true 4wd, the Ridgeline. A quick inspection and test drive of them will make this obvious. With deals of about $4000-6000 off MSRP for them it makes them a no brainer at $23000-25000." The Silverado may be the best, but like the other full- sized trucks they are too much $$$, and the truck is way too big for regular driving. I have owned both compact and full size trucks and the compact (well now they are mid-size) is more of my size. It you could get the $4-6,000 off the MSRP on a full-size truck, than you should also be able to make a deal for a Colorado/Canyon. Other than the head problems of the past Colorado models, the rest of the truck is quite nice. I found nothing wrong with the interior and have driven a couple. The front end is the only part I don't car for in the truck. Hopefully my nephew doesn't have any issues with his 2005 Canyon that he bought new late last year. Replies to this message: jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 5:09 am) driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 6:58 am) jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 7:54 am) and 1 more... poncho167 (Jun 27, 2007 5:21 am) driver56 (Jun 27, 2007 3:18 pm) and 1 more...
#708 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [poncho167] by jfritsch Jun 25, 2007 (5:09 am)
Replying to: poncho167 (Jun 25, 2007 4:31 am) This is just out of curiosity but have you actually gone to a dealer, and test driven a 06-07 Frontier Crew ,Tacoma or Ridgeline and compared them (build, handling and interior)and what you get? You can get 6000-8000 off the MSRP on a full size truck. $12000-14000 off the Dodge RAM 1500. (This puts a lot of full size truck in your hands for $22000 ) I would consider Colorado starting about $8000 off its (already high) MSRP due to its exterior styling and where it starts to become competitive with the others. A fellow at work got his for $9000 off an 06 end of December Funny the only thing that attracted me initially to the Colorado was the front end and sheet metal in general. Go figure. It does look nice on the road. Happy Hunting --jjf The Silverado may be the best, but like the other full- sized trucks they are too much $$$, and the truck is way too big for regular driving. I have owned both compact and full size trucks and the compact (well now they are mid-size) is more of my size. It you could get the $4-6,000 off the MSRP on a full-size truck, than you should also be able to make a deal for a Colorado/Canyon. Other than the head problems of the past Colorado models, the rest of the truck is quite nice. I found nothing wrong with the interior and have driven a couple. The front end is the only part I don't car for in the truck. Hopefully my nephew doesn't have any issues with his 2005 Canyon that he bought new late last year. Replies to this message: driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 6:58 am) jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 7:54 am) driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 5:01 pm) poncho167 (Jun 27, 2007 5:21 am) driver56 (Jun 27, 2007 3:18 pm) jfritsch (Jun 27, 2007 4:13 pm)
#709 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [jfritsch] by driver56 Jun 25, 2007 (6:58 am)
Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 5:09 am) My 07 Nissan Frontier is more than big enough for this Puppy, particularly since it is driven mostly on city streets. Size-wise, I can barely fit it into my garage and then shut the door. And it's a short wheel base. Good truck so far, fun to drive, handles well, gets decent mileage if one goes easy. Replies to this message: jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 7:54 am) driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 5:01 pm)
#710 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [driver56] by jfritsch Jun 25, 2007 (7:54 am)
Replying to: driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 6:58 am) Just for info, what model is it and price paid? --jjf My 07 Nissan Frontier is more than big enough for this Puppy, particularly since it is driven mostly on city streets. Size-wise, I can barely fit it into my garage and then shut the door. And it's a short wheel base. Good truck so far, fun to drive, handles well, gets decent mileage if one goes easy Replies to this message: driver56 (Jun 25, 2007 5:01 pm)
#711 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [jfritsch] by driver56 Jun 25, 2007 (5:01 pm)
Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 7:54 am) It is a Nismo 4x4 Crew Cab. I paid $36500 CDN. pre tax.
#712 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [jfritsch] by poncho167 Jun 27, 2007 (5:21 am)
Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 25, 2007 5:09 am) "I would consider Colorado starting about $8000 off its (already high) MSRP due to its exterior styling and where it starts to become competitive with the others. A fellow at work got his for $9000 off an 06 end of December." $9,000 off with rebates, GM card, and other dealer discounts maybe. They are not going to lose money selling a truck to your friend even though pickups are known to be the most over-priced. The only thing that doesn't make the Colorado/Canyon competitive is the lack of towing and hauling. The truck obviously is underpowered compared to the competition but that will supposedly change. The previous S10 was a work horse in comparison that could out-haul and tow much more than the Colorado. As far as looks other than the contraversal front end styling of the Colorado, from the door back it is a clean design unlike the Japanese models. The Nissan in my opinion is still the ugliest truck on the market. I used to sell Nissan hard bodies (what they used to call them) and preferred them over the Toyota because I sold them. When I talk of clean styling I am saying that clean to a custom truck builder means no ridges, big wheel wells, or general odd shapes. Smooth lines are best for customizing and the Nissan is far from it. I don't mean to attack your preference in a truck, but Nissan trucks are on the uggo side. What is with Nissan with that silly tailgate latch. Both trucks have this huge tailgate latch area, for what? It is best styling wise to keep things to a minimum including the tailgate latch. Most custom truck owners remove or reverse the tailgate latch any ways, but the Nissan would need a custom tailgate to fix that. Have I driven one, no I haven't. No reason to. I have seen them and that is good enough. The Colorado is light duty and that is why it is praised for ride and handling. All these trucks and most cars are pretty much the same nowadays except for engines and some other minor differences. Even if the Colorado hasn't won any shoot-outs, that doesn't mean its a bad truck. Mostly from what I have read it comes up short on power, but who really needs more than that in these supper light duty trucks. Most only drive them on the road any ways with nothing in the back. Give me a four cylinder and leave it at that. Chevrolet in general have alot going for them with their reputation for longevity. My 1992 S10 will attest to that. Wouldn't it be boring if everyone had the same truck? To each his own. Happy trucking. Replies to this message: driver56 (Jun 27, 2007 3:18 pm) jfritsch (Jun 27, 2007 4:13 pm)
#713 of 751 Re: V8 Colorado [poncho167] by driver56 Jun 27, 2007 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: poncho167 (Jun 27, 2007 5:21 am) You're not too opinionated are ya'? I happen to see the new gen Frontier as a good looking truck. And yes, I do own one. I also realize it is very subjective, all that looks "good" or "ugly". Now that I've owned it for a while, this little Titan just gets better lookin' because it's such a performer. It does everything I ask it to and beyond. Of all the trucks I've driven, going back 35 years, this is the Champ. That said, I seriously looked at the Taco, it was a fairly close second choice, but I see the Taco as a relatively unadorned over-priced truck. Liked it, just not enough. I had hopes for the GM twins, but was dissapointed with their I-5. Nice looking to my eye, could use a little refinement. I wish G.M. good luck. I bought what suited me the most, I'm happy with that, I hope everyone else does just that. Cheers! Replies to this message: jfritsch (Jun 27, 2007 4:13 pm)