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What is this discussion about? Honda Ridgeline, Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon, Dodge Dakota, Ford Explorer Sport Trac, Car Comparisons, Truck


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Re: Price Comparisons [varmint] by thegraduate
Jan 19, 2006 (5:42 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Jan 19, 2006 11:55 am)

Amen. You do need to look at features. Otherwise pricing comparisons can be very tricky.
  
When equipped with similar hardware, the Ridgeline costs about as much as a similar Tacoma or Frontier. The thing that sets the Ridgeline apart is that the base model is still fairly well equipped. There is no stripped, 2wd model of the Honda. So perception suggests that it is expensive even though the reality is not so bad.

 
Yep; the base model of the Ridgeline is VERY well-equipped.
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Re: Price Comparisons [thegraduate] by toykick
Jan 19, 2006 (9:44 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 19, 2006 5:42 pm)

FOR THOSE DIE HARD TRUCK FANS WHO SAID THEY WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE IF VTEC MADE IT INTO A TRUCK...WELL. NOW YOU CAN KILL YOURSELVES...
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Re: Price Comparisons [toykick] by gearhead1
Jan 20, 2006 (12:10 am)

Replying to: toykick (Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm)

WELL. NOW YOU CAN KILL YOURSELVES...
 
That would be sweet.
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Re: Price Comparisons [toykick] by woodshop28
Jan 20, 2006 (6:23 am)

Replying to: toykick (Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm)

I am not sure what the point of this post is, but I believe both the Nissan and Toyota 6-cyl engines have a form of variable intake. The ridgeline's engine is no more powerful than the other trucks.
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Re: Price Comparisons [toykick] by thegraduate
Jan 20, 2006 (6:40 am)

Replying to: toykick (Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm)

I noticed in a recent test of a Pontiac G6, that it had variable lift timing, even though it is still a pushrod engine. A "VTec/Vvti - like system may not be that far away for MANY automakers. After all, it is tuned to bring torque numbers up down low, and helps raise peak horsepower up high. I remember driving a 1994 Dodge Ram 5.2 V-8 (220 hp, I think). It had plenty of get up off the line, but punch it at 60 mph, and it had nothing for the driver when compared to a Ridgeline. Add to that it got 11 mpg when driving it to work, and I'd say that VTec is a good thing.
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My Comparo by demoncleaner
Jan 20, 2006 (7:52 am)
All these trucks were redone or released in the past 2 years, so you'd think a competive field... This is simple. Toyota, Honda, and Nissan did their homework before releasing thier trucks. Each has design features to meet what different truck buyers want. They were significantly improved over the previous model (except Honda as its new). Dodge just made small changes. The Colorado is a prime example of what is wrong with US car manufacurers. From a clean sheet, GM designers managed to make another S-10, with little upgrade to what they had before.
 
I have driven them all. The Dakota was ok. The Frontier was nice, the Ridgeline was as well, but not the vehicle for me. I drove 2 Colorados. Didn't compare to the others, at all. I loved the Tacoma, so thats what I bought. Very happy with my decision.
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Re: My Comparo [demoncleaner] by varmint
Jan 20, 2006 (10:10 am)

Replying to: demoncleaner (Jan 20, 2006 7:52 am)

Except for the fact that you can get them dirt cheap (and they look nice, in a GMish way), I can't think of a good reason to go with the Colorado/Canyon. They had to cut costs to bring this to market. I can accept that. But the result is a truly compromised vehicle. I think they might've been better off cancelling the S10, saving their pennies, and trying again in a few years.
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Re: My Comparo [demoncleaner] by thegraduate
Jan 20, 2006 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: demoncleaner (Jan 20, 2006 7:52 am)

I like the Tacoma as well, but with a couple of issues I find fault with...It drink premium gasoline (a problem for me, since oil prices are at $68.35 the instant I write this (CNBC television is on, haha). That makes its economy kinda iffy IMO. The other issue was the fact that I couldn't see the stereo readout with my polarized sunglasses on! I know this sounds like a tiny issue, but I only wear polarized, so over time, this can get VERY annoying! Congratulations on your purchase, demoncleaner.
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Re: My Comparo [thegraduate] by pb2themax
Jan 20, 2006 (4:58 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 20, 2006 12:48 pm)

The new Tacomas don't have to have premium gas. I have tried all grades in my V6 4.0 liter. No difference in power, MPG, or engine noise. 10k miles and no problems. Very happy with my purchase.
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Re: My Comparo [pb2themax] by thegraduate
Jan 20, 2006 (9:29 pm)

Replying to: pb2themax (Jan 20, 2006 4:58 pm)

Toyota says themselves that premium is reccommended, but regular can be run with "reduced performance". I imagine the engineers know what they're talking about.

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