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#692 of 751 Re: V8 for 2008 Colorado [kipk] by jfritsch

Jun 10, 2007 (5:48 am)

Replying to: kipk (Jun 10, 2007 4:31 am)
Check out my message 14394 in the Honda Accord prices paid section. All ya need to know. Email 10-30 dealers for quotes end of the month. All the full size pickups -Tundra, f series Silverado wholesale about 10k off MSRP year one. They will not move without sizeable incentives. Obviously for a good deal you want a considerable amount off.
 
You want about 7-8k+ off a 30+ k Silverado for a good deal and more for the Dodges. Silverado has had a reprieve from the norm the last few months for the Truck of the year headline but economics are returning to normal. Newly introduced Tundra too.
 
If your friend needs a full size tell him to investigate the Dodge 1500 4x4 crew or even mega crew. Its advertised frequently for 12k off MSRP a 5.7 hemi 33+k truck. Doing the above may produce an even bigger discount from the right dealer towards end of this month or next.
 
Please don't take invoice -holdback- advertised rebates/dealer incentives and assume you know dealer cost. Invoice has been more a nominal figure for more than 15 years. Unadvertised dealer cash and such for numerous models and particularly for the 20 mpg segment the last 3 years has been very substantial.
 
Buying a Dodge Durango for dealer "cost" with advertised rebates,holdback and such for a 7500 discount from MSRP is very painful. Its advertised frequently for 10k+ off. It wholesales 14000+ off MSRP year one. This is one of the more extreme examples for illustration of hidden dealer cash.
 
August will probably be a shooting gallery again with major discounts on Honda Pilot (7500+ off 6000 off now) etc. If your friend is flexible on colors and such waiting a month or two getting some competitive bids end of month may produce some really great deals. $4000 off a 26000+ Frontier or Tacoma crew, $5000 off the 4runner is no big whoop now.
 
In general taking the wholesale price of a year old used vehicle like the one you're looking for and adding 15-20% is a useful target price for a new vehicle. Obviously you're shooting for the lower or better towards end of the model year. This holds for 95% of production vehicles. It also illustrates buying a year old used car anymore isn't usually a great idea.
 
If you want extended warranties try to keep it around $700 or so for a 7year/100k bumper to bumper factory warranty for the Ford or Chev (they already have sizeable warranties) and $1000 or so for the Dodge (funny everyone else is extending their standard powertrain warranties and Dodge dropped their 7/70 last year).
 
Happy Hunting
--jjf
 
Prices you are quoting seem a bit too good to be true!
  
"Get a Frontier, Tacoma, Ridgeline, or if you need GM, or a v8 a Silverado -- one of the best in the fullsize class. (you can work 7-8k off msrp deals now with this truck of the year, 4k off the Tacoma and Frontier and about 6k off the Ridgeline) You may be able to work 8-10k off a Dakota. ,"
  
These prices are way below dealer cost and dealer holdback.
  
Please explain how you do it. A friend is looking to buy a New Silverado right now !
  
Thanks,
  
Kip

#693 of 751 Re: V8 for 2008 Colorado [jfritsch] by kipk

Jun 10, 2007 (2:08 pm)

Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 10, 2007 5:48 am)
This guy has patience. Sent him a copy of your response.
 
Thanks,
Kip

#694 of 751 Re: V8 for 2008 Colorado [poncho167] by rsholland

Jun 14, 2007 (5:10 pm)

Replying to: poncho167 (Jun 09, 2007 5:42 am)
Yes, a V8 is coming in the Colorado, but not for 2008. I've gotten that from a source I trust.
 
Bob

#695 of 751 Re: V8 for 2008 Colorado [rsholland] by paisan

Jun 14, 2007 (5:18 pm)

Replying to: rsholland (Jun 14, 2007 5:10 pm)
Makes sense since the H3 will get a V8 IIRC.
 
-mike

#696 of 751 Re: V8 for 2008 Colorado [donn2390] by poncho167

Jun 16, 2007 (11:37 am)

Replying to: donn2390 (Jun 09, 2007 9:06 am)
I saw it on autob--g a couple weeks ago. Left out a couple letters because of the Edmunds rules. Let me know if you can't figure it out.

#697 of 751 2008 Colorado by donn2390

Jun 18, 2007 (3:06 pm)

I found the site, and I found the full size Chevy's, but can't find Colorado. The site is new to me, I couldn't find an esy way to look other than go page by page... I'll keep trying to figure it out. Thanks for the tip....

#698 of 751 Re: V8 for 2008 Colorado [poncho167] by jfritsch

Jun 18, 2007 (6:05 pm)

Replying to: poncho167 (Jun 16, 2007 11:37 am)
I still don't know how they would shoehorn a V8 into a Colorado when the 5 cylinder is the big one now. Any redesign enough to put a V8 in this machine would put you quickly into Silverado territory which would seem counterproductive.
 
Given the Tacoma and Frontier are bigger and a V8 is probably impractical for them are you sure the rumors arent for a V6 (wowsers) for the Colorado?
 
--jjf

#699 of 751 Shoehorn...... by donn2390

Jun 18, 2007 (7:43 pm)

The rumors I heard were for the 5.3 V8. The Hummer has that engine and Hummer uses the same frame the Colorado does, so it can't be to tought to make it fit with the Colorado body.
 I really don't need anymore than the I-5 provides, but would be interested in looking at the V-8, were it to be ooffered, before making a decision. It the price were right, and the mileage were tempting, I might go for an "8".. !

#700 of 751 Hummer H3 and Colorado are made at by obyone

Jun 19, 2007 (12:44 am)

the same plant in Louisiana.

#701 of 751 Re: Shoehorn...... [donn2390] by jfritsch

Jun 19, 2007 (5:08 am)

Replying to: donn2390 (Jun 18, 2007 7:43 pm)
I'm speaking totally from ignorance of anything you might have read but are you sure the Hummer H3 isn't based on Surburban or Chevy Silverado frame? I find it hard to believe a 6000 lb Hummer is based on the smallest of the Mid-size Colorado frame. I don't think the Dakota frame (largest mid size) could do it.
 
--jjf
 
The rumors I heard were for the 5.3 V8. The Hummer has that engine and Hummer uses the same frame the Colorado does, so it can't be to tought to make it fit with the Colorado body.
 I really don't need anymore than the I-5 provides, but would be interested in looking at the V-8, were it to be ooffered, before making a decision. It the price were right, and the mileage were tempting, I might go for an "8".. !

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