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#660 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [kipk] by poncho167 May 12, 2007 (5:56 am)
Replying to: kipk (May 12, 2007 3:02 am) My point was the Ridgeline is being marketed as a pickup truck when it is not. A pickup truck has a separate cab and seperate bed. The Ridgeline, Avalanche, Cadillac version, are all SUV's. Replies to this message: driver56 (May 12, 2007 11:23 am) kipk (May 13, 2007 4:24 pm) jfritsch (May 14, 2007 12:29 pm) kipk (May 15, 2007 3:09 am) rsholland (May 15, 2007 7:11 am) and 1 more...
#661 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [poncho167] by driver56 May 12, 2007 (11:23 am)
Replying to: poncho167 (May 12, 2007 5:56 am) A common definition of a pickup is : a vehicle with an open rear cargo area for picking up stuff. I suppose we could call the Ridgeline a Sport Utility Pickup. A SUP.
#663 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [poncho167] by kipk May 13, 2007 (4:24 pm)
Replying to: poncho167 (May 12, 2007 5:56 am) "My point was the Ridgeline is being marketed as a pickup truck when it is not. A pickup truck has a separate cab and separate bed." Why do you think the cab and bed have to be separate? Edmunds says: "A Truck is a vehicle with two or four doors and an exposed cargo box." If I take the bed off my pickup, is it still a pickup? If I cover the cargo box, is it still a pickup? Kip Replies to this message: jfritsch (May 14, 2007 12:29 pm) kipk (May 15, 2007 3:09 am) rsholland (May 15, 2007 7:11 am) kipk (May 15, 2007 7:36 am)
#664 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [kipk] by jfritsch May 14, 2007 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: kipk (May 13, 2007 4:24 pm) No way. A pickup has to have a cab bolted onto the frame and a separate bed bolted 1/2" behind it. And a separation line clearly visible between the cab and the bed. Thats the way its gotta be. --jjf My point was the Ridgeline is being marketed as a pickup truck when it is not. A pickup truck has a separate cab and separate bed." Why do you think the cab and bed have to be separate? Edmunds says: "A Truck is a vehicle with two or four doors and an exposed cargo box." If I take the bed off my pickup, is it still a pickup? If I cover the cargo box, is it still a pickup? Kip Replies to this message: kipk (May 15, 2007 3:09 am) rsholland (May 15, 2007 7:11 am) kipk (May 15, 2007 7:36 am)
#665 of 751 Re: Frontier [kipk] by asa May 14, 2007 (2:35 pm)
Replying to: kipk (Mar 14, 2007 5:41 am) <Toyota and Nissan (Datsun) have been building quality 4 cylinder engines since just before dirt was invented.> Toyota's 22R ran in dozens of models for many years and it too was a phenominal engine, having been carburated, injected and even factory turboed. My '86 Toyota truck had the turbo 22R and for its day, it was a blast. It had a whopping 135 turbocharged horses. Mine ran great to near 235,000 Miles when I sold it. Replies to this message: driver56 (May 14, 2007 4:17 pm) kipk (May 15, 2007 3:26 am)
#666 of 751 Re: Frontier [asa] by driver56 May 14, 2007 (4:17 pm)
Replying to: asa (May 14, 2007 2:35 pm) Their sixes aren't half bad neither. BULLET PROOF. Replies to this message: kipk (May 15, 2007 3:26 am)
#667 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [jfritsch] by kipk May 15, 2007 (3:09 am)
Replying to: jfritsch (May 14, 2007 12:29 pm) "No way. A pickup has to have a cab bolted onto the frame and a separate bed bolted 1/2" behind it. And a separation line clearly visible between the cab and the bed. Thats the way its gotta be. " Thanks for clearing that up! I must have been having a senior moment? Reminds me: Many moons ago, Saab had a commercial showing the advantages of front wheel drive. They drove it UP a ski slope. Seems they showed how Volvo's RWD didn't get very far. Though there were other FWD vehicles on the road, they were still rare. Those of us in the "KNOW" realized the FWD thing was a passing fad and would never last or become popular. Kip
#668 of 751 Re: Frontier [driver56] by kipk May 15, 2007 (3:26 am)
Replying to: driver56 (May 14, 2007 4:17 pm) My son had a Tacoma V6, 4wd that he "ragged" on pretty hard. He did at least change the oil on a regular basis. Sold that truck with over 200K miles and the engine was still running fine and not using oil. For some reason the Toyota small V8 doesn't seem to be much of a performance advantage over the V6, although it seems to be reliable. Never understood that! The new 5.7L appears to be a winner. I think the 5.7 in a Tacoma would be interesting. Kip
#669 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [jfritsch] by rsholland May 15, 2007 (7:11 am)
Replying to: jfritsch (May 14, 2007 12:29 pm) I think I'll stick to this definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_truck Bob Replies to this message: kipk (May 15, 2007 7:36 am)