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What is this discussion about? Honda Ridgeline, Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon, Dodge Dakota, Ford Explorer Sport Trac, Car Comparisons, Truck


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Re: I cant wait [driver56] by gdog6
May 11, 2007 (3:35 pm)

Replying to: driver56 (May 10, 2007 6:55 pm)

I hope so!
 
Dr Z saved money with the cheap interior so he could get him
a leather jacket
 
Just one more reason he Stinks as a CEO
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Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [jfritsch] by kipk
May 12, 2007 (3:02 am)

Replying to: jfritsch (May 10, 2007 9:38 am)

"The Honda Ridgeline is nothing more than an SUV".
 
Not uncommon for a line of trucks and SUVs to share chassis, drive trains and such. Sometimes the basic difference is whether or not the bed is open, or if it is covered and has some seats and carpet in place.
 
While there are some differences in spring rates, interior tweaks and such, the chassis and drive trains share a lot more than we know.
 
Same with the Ridgeline and Pilot. Honda is no different than the other mfg in this respect. However, the components under a Ridgeline such as the separate frame, rear 4WD drive components, suspension and such are different from the Pilot. The actual floor pan is probably very similar. Just like the other mfg.
 
As the Ridgeline is front wheel drive, I certainly do not believe the Ridgeline drive train is as strong as a Tacoma or Frontier. I do believe it is stronger than a Pilot. The Ridgeline is after a different market, and does it very well.
 
Personally, if I am going to do serious hauling, I'm going to go full size and V8!
 
Kip
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Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [kipk] by poncho167
May 12, 2007 (5:56 am)

Replying to: kipk (May 12, 2007 3:02 am)

My point was the Ridgeline is being marketed as a pickup truck when it is not. A pickup truck has a separate cab and seperate bed. The Ridgeline, Avalanche, Cadillac version, are all SUV's.
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Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [poncho167] by driver56
May 12, 2007 (11:23 am)

Replying to: poncho167 (May 12, 2007 5:56 am)

A common definition of a pickup is : a vehicle with an open rear cargo area for picking up stuff.
I suppose we could call the Ridgeline a Sport Utility Pickup. A SUP.
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Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [poncho167] by kipk
May 13, 2007 (4:24 pm)

Replying to: poncho167 (May 12, 2007 5:56 am)

"My point was the Ridgeline is being marketed as a pickup truck when it is not. A pickup truck has a separate cab and separate bed."
 
Why do you think the cab and bed have to be separate?
 
Edmunds says: "A Truck is a vehicle with two or four doors and an exposed cargo box."
 
If I take the bed off my pickup, is it still a pickup?
If I cover the cargo box, is it still a pickup?
 
Kip
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Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [kipk] by jfritsch
May 14, 2007 (12:29 pm)

Replying to: kipk (May 13, 2007 4:24 pm)

No way. A pickup has to have a cab bolted onto the frame and a separate bed bolted 1/2" behind it. And a separation line clearly visible between the cab and the bed. Thats the way its gotta be.
 
--jjf
 
My point was the Ridgeline is being marketed as a pickup truck when it is not. A pickup truck has a separate cab and separate bed."
  
Why do you think the cab and bed have to be separate?
  
Edmunds says: "A Truck is a vehicle with two or four doors and an exposed cargo box."
  
If I take the bed off my pickup, is it still a pickup?
If I cover the cargo box, is it still a pickup?
  
Kip
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Re: Frontier [kipk] by asa
May 14, 2007 (2:35 pm)

Replying to: kipk (Mar 14, 2007 5:41 am)

<Toyota and Nissan (Datsun) have been building quality 4 cylinder engines since just before dirt was invented.>
 
Toyota's 22R ran in dozens of models for many years and it too was a phenominal engine, having been carburated, injected and even factory turboed. My '86 Toyota truck had the turbo 22R and for its day, it was a blast. It had a whopping 135 turbocharged horses. Mine ran great to near 235,000 Miles when I sold it.
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Re: Frontier [asa] by driver56
May 14, 2007 (4:17 pm)

Replying to: asa (May 14, 2007 2:35 pm)

Their sixes aren't half bad neither. BULLET PROOF.
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Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [jfritsch] by kipk
May 15, 2007 (3:09 am)

Replying to: jfritsch (May 14, 2007 12:29 pm)

"No way. A pickup has to have a cab bolted onto the frame and a separate bed bolted 1/2" behind it. And a separation line clearly visible between the cab and the bed. Thats the way its gotta be. "
 
Thanks for clearing that up! I must have been having a senior moment?
 
Reminds me: Many moons ago, Saab had a commercial showing the advantages of front wheel drive. They drove it UP a ski slope. Seems they showed how Volvo's RWD didn't get very far. Though there were other FWD vehicles on the road, they were still rare.
 
Those of us in the "KNOW" realized the FWD thing was a passing fad and would never last or become popular.
 
Kip

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