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#592 of 751 Re: Frontier best small truck, Colorado lagging [kipk] by moparbad Dec 16, 2006 (8:24 am)
Replying to: kipk (Dec 16, 2006 2:53 am) Last time I got a flat, a can of "Fix-A-Flat" and the portable cigarette lighter powered air pump handled the problem. Use caution on when using any liquid tire repair solutions on a vehicle equipped with TPMS systems. All of the 07's being compared have TPMS and many of the 06's. Also, make sure repair shop is notified of the TPMS system to prevent damage to the sensor. The sensors are very expensive and fix a flat type chemicals are said to possibly damage the sensors. At least that is what the TPMS manufacturers say. The sensors are EXPENSIVE to replace.
#593 of 751 Couple points by ustazzaf Dec 16, 2006 (11:45 am)
Rear discs are real nice to look at. They do nothing for your braking unless you have a big load in the back. Otherwise, therte is no problem getting enough braking to lock the rears up (unless you have anti-lock, which is exactly why anti-lock was made, because rears had enough power to keep locking up). The comment about using fix a flat tells what wasteful direction the country has taken. It has become easier to replace a ruined tire and wheel than it is to get a little dirty changing a tire. Once that stuff gets onto the wheel and tire, the life of both is drastically reduced due to corrosion and rubber breakdown. Fix a flat is designed if you are far from civilization and you discover that you have a stuck wheel stud or a flat spare. Emergency use is what it is for. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 16, 2006 10:18 pm) kipk (Dec 17, 2006 5:25 am)
#594 of 751 Re: Couple points [ustazzaf] by thegraduate Dec 16, 2006 (10:18 pm)
Replying to: ustazzaf (Dec 16, 2006 11:45 am) Except brake fade (reduced braking ability because of overheated brakes), which happens a lot more readily on drums than discs.
#595 of 751 Fade? by ustazzaf Dec 16, 2006 (11:27 pm)
If you have a problem with brake fade, you are are not using your brakes correctly or the fronts are not operating correctly. Fade was a problem with front drums, and continues to be a problem with big rigs due to trailer weight. If you have the vehicle loaded down going down a steep, long windy mountain road, you will encounter fade problems. Under anything that resembles normal day to day use, fade will not be a factor. You could cap off the rears completely under normal use and not notice much if any difference. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 17, 2006 7:23 am) kipk (Dec 18, 2006 3:26 am)
#596 of 751 Re: Couple points [ustazzaf] by kipk Dec 17, 2006 (5:25 am)
Replying to: ustazzaf (Dec 16, 2006 11:45 am) The comment about using fix a flat tells what wasteful direction the country has taken. It has become easier to replace a ruined tire and wheel than it is to get a little dirty changing a tire. Once that stuff gets onto the wheel and tire, the life of both is drastically reduced due to corrosion and rubber breakdown. Thanks for the heads up. That happened about a month after putting new tires on the old standby 78 Chevy Van. Spring of 2000. Original wheels. A 29Ft camper was attached at the time. Noticed it at a rest stop at near midnight. Except for one 18 wheeler in the truck area we were the only ones there. Just didn't seem like a good time to disable the vehicle. Slowly drove about 20 miles and found a open truck stop and changed the tire. No one there to fix it. Got it plugged the next day. Pressure was the same as the portable pump had done. Fix-a-Flat did its job. I would do the same again! Tires are still on the van. Although all 4 are beginning to show stress cracks on the side walls. When should the corrosion start showing up? Kip
#597 of 751 Re: Fade? [ustazzaf] by thegraduate Dec 17, 2006 (7:23 am)
Replying to: ustazzaf (Dec 16, 2006 11:27 pm) Hey, people who drive trucks tend to tow things. When you tow things, you also need to stop them. Disc brakes do a better job at stopping them down that 5,000 foot grade-mountain road than drums, because they will take longer to overheat. It's just a fact. It doesn't make a truck inadequate to have rear drum brakes (heck, my old Honda has rear drums, and they are just fine), it just makes other trucks more capable of long periods of heavy braking without problems. A lot of people who buy truck don't buy them for day-to-day use, they buy them to work hard; to tow that boat to the lake in the mountains; to haul those building materials to the worksite; to tow their old classic car on a trailer. For these times, discs are simply better at resisting fade.
#598 of 751 disc brakes/drum brakes by 2005lekc Dec 17, 2006 (7:42 pm)
Disc brakes are not affected by water like drum brakes are. I had a 1977 Datsun KC 5 speed I drove for 24 years. Drum brakes front and rear. Everytime I went through water the brakes were gone until they were dried out. And no, I did not race through water puddles. On occasion I would be trapped in a lane on the interstate and couldn't go around the puddle. I much prefer the disc brakes under most circumstances. OkieScot Replies to this message: asa (Dec 19, 2006 2:50 pm) 2005lekc (Dec 19, 2006 8:04 pm) kipk (Dec 20, 2006 2:45 am)
#599 of 751 Re: Fade? [ustazzaf] by kipk Dec 18, 2006 (3:26 am)
Replying to: ustazzaf (Dec 16, 2006 11:27 pm) Under anything that resembles normal day to day use, fade will not be a factor. You could cap off the rears completely under normal use and not notice much if any difference. Lose the rear brakes, and anything other than "NORMAL" stops can and will result in the vehicle swerving. The rear brakes help keep the rear where it belongs. Been there done that! Lose them when towing and it can become critical in a hurry! Kip
#600 of 751 Re: disc brakes/drum brakes [2005lekc] by asa Dec 19, 2006 (2:50 pm)
Replying to: 2005lekc (Dec 17, 2006 7:42 pm) Maybe it's just me, but I find it easier to replace pads on disc brakes than replace shoes on drums. Replies to this message: 2005lekc (Dec 19, 2006 8:04 pm) kipk (Dec 20, 2006 2:45 am)
#601 of 751 Re: disc brakes/drum brakes [asa] by 2005lekc Dec 19, 2006 (8:04 pm)
Replying to: asa (Dec 19, 2006 2:50 pm) Definitely easier unless the pistons are frozen. OkieScot Replies to this message: kipk (Dec 20, 2006 2:45 am)