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#474 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [sugarman1]
May 15, 2006 (4:40 am)
"Could you please enlighten us to your previous bad experiences with Toyota and Nissan trucks and what are you rolling in now?"
(2) previous Toyotas, 300,000+ in each, except for replacing a seat (not Toyota's problem, I ripped it with tools), nothing but joy. I beat the HELL out of those trucks. They were easy to maintain, fun to drive, and dead dependable. I drove both to the junkyard.
(1) Nissan Frontier, purchased because I thought Toyota's were too high priced at the time. Got a _great_ deal (dealership was moving across the street - no room, they were renting parking lot space all over town). It was a GREAT looking truck, Fiesta Red w/ chrome, alloys, and NO decals.
One of the few vehicles I sold without running it into the ground. PITA to self-service, construction quality not even close to Toyota (packing tape on underhood harnesses, cheesy body clips, etc...) wierd emmissions related problems nobody could find, several recalls. When it was two days old, the windows wouldn't roll up over 35 MPH, due to air flow sucking them outward. Three trips to dealer to resolve. Sold the Nissan after 50 months and only 39k, but I was happy with the resale value. This and a Subaru Outback were the only two vehicles I've not driven to the grave.
Today - I'm in an early 2005 Tacoma V6 TRD Offroad 4x4 Access Cab. I got caught with noisy leaf springs and the cab mount rattle, but missed the very early water leak. The springs really weren't a big deal, the service manager _offered_ to fix it when I mentioned them in passing during a conversation about the under-cab rattle. I'm impressed with Toyota's ability to make running changes to the line, as the issues I had were identified, solved, and didn't affect later builds. I've had Jeeps built _10_ years apart with the same problems (rear brake cylinders).
Both '05 Tacoma issues were fixed by the dealership with zero hassle. Radiant Red paint is flawless after 14 months. The truck is the best of 20+ vehicles I or my wife has ever owned. My only minor complaint is with the 6sp shifter, I plan on installing a short shift kit. Salesman lets me run it through the dealership wash twice a month, and parts dept. sells me accessories for online price and OEM oil filters for $4.
While I was shopping, I easily could have again purchased a Frontier for less than the Tacoma. The current Frontier displayed some of the same corner cutting as my other Nissan, but looked better than it used to be. Chose to wait 6 weeks and pay about $1200 more for a similar Tacoma, and I'm still very, very happy.
I think the Frontier is nice, I just thought the Tacoma was a tick better. Both are milleniums better than a Colorado or Ranger!
You payz your money...
#475 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [wooddorker]
May 15, 2006 (8:29 am)
Good eye opening post!!! Of course it is possible that you got a lemon with the Nissan.
But it is very hard to fault the 300,000+ miles you put on the Toyotas. Obviously Toyota builds a rugged and reliable Truck.
#476 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [wooddorker]
May 16, 2006 (1:00 pm)
I agree with you completely Toyota has always been ahead of Nissans in looks,performance,on/offroad capabilities,its the total package and for the total package you have to pay a little more why mess around with a plastic Nismo when you can get a Tacoma beauty.
#477 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [sugarman1]
May 16, 2006 (1:09 pm)
I agree with you completely Toyota has always been ahead of Nissans in looks,performance,on/offroad capabilities,its the total package and for the total package you have to pay a little more why mess around with a plastic Nismo when you can get a Tacoma beauty
Is there any fact in here, or just opinion (there's nothing wrong with opinion, we all have them, but just wondering where you get the idea of better performance and on/off road capabilities).
Also, is there a need to put down the Nissan trucks and buyers (plastic Nismo)? Just seems a little out of line, but that's just MY opinion.
If anything, a lot of people (myself included) give credit to Nissan for spicing up the styling and creating it's own design language,
while others remain fairly bland (I like Hondas, but the Ridgeline isn't stylish, and personally, Toyotas are bland to me, and the hood scoop just screams rice-rocket). I realize neither truck is "exciting", but Nissan is the more exciting of the two IMO.
#478 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [thegraduate]
May 16, 2006 (5:10 pm)
Thanks Nissan for the stylish roof rack and the half size rear doors with those cool 2 piece windows.Do those rear windows go up and down or are they just for show?Maybe a rice grinder hood scoop would be nice?
#479 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [eagleg]
May 16, 2006 (5:34 pm)
Hey, I'm the one who said styling was not something anyone could be derided for...I didn't say the Nissan was beautiful, just more interesting than the Toyota (which I do actually like, my friend from h.s. has a silver V-6 Double Cab Pre-Runner that I like).
#480 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [eagleg]
May 16, 2006 (5:57 pm)
Maybe a rice grinder hood scoop would be nice?
2005 Tacoma 4.0L V6 245HP 283 lb/ft torque
2006 Tacoma 4.0L V6 236HP 266 lb/ft torque
9 fewer horses on the '06, where did they go? Are they hiding in the hood scoop?
Maybe Tacoma needs that hood scoop for that premium unleaded sucking, premium performance 4.0L V6?
#481 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [moparbad]
May 16, 2006 (6:06 pm)
Taco Envy Volvobad?If you work real hard,maybe someday you'll be "Moving Forward."
#482 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [eagleg]
May 16, 2006 (6:12 pm)
Thanks Nissan for the ....half size rear doors with those cool 2 piece windows.
Rear Headroom (in.)
Rear Legroom (in.)
Rear Shoulder Room (in.)
Rear Hip Room (in.)
Tacoma 53.6 Frontier 58.0
Frontier has more space for passengers in the rear seat than Tacoma. Half size doors...LOL!
#483 of 751 Re: Forget Tacoma [moparbad]
May 16, 2006 (6:16 pm)
Why do the doors look so small and why don't you buy a Fronty?LOL HAHAHA