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#31 of 751 Re: Minor Correction [thegraduate] by toykick Jan 22, 2006 (2:48 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 22, 2006 2:32 pm) your accord has more torque then hp? really? see i dont do VTEC #s... if your torque peaks before your hp it doesnt mean you have more torque then hp the 06 v6 accord has 244HP 6244 rpm and 211ft.lb of torque at 5000 rpm... So i guess you have more torque then hp before 6k rpm right ? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 12:39 pm) toykick (Jan 23, 2006 1:03 pm) thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:06 pm) and 3 more...
#32 of 751 . by objectiveview Jan 22, 2006 (5:29 pm)
For all intents and purposes a VTEC system isnt a bad thing for a truck, but I dont think a ridgline belongs here, as it cant do the heavy-duty work nor has the off road ability that all the trucks here have. "sport-utilty truck" my a$$ However though, it'd make a great base for street truck, like a tacoma x-runner or f-150 lightning and be a great buy "for people who dont like trucks".... WTF would you buy one then?
#33 of 751 Re: My Comparo [thegraduate] by pb2themax Jan 22, 2006 (5:33 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 20, 2006 9:29 pm) "I imagine the engineers know what they're talking about." That would be nice, and you would also think that the Toyota salesmen know everything about thier products, but as most of us know, they don't. The only way to really find out is to try it, like I did. Try it and see for yourself, that there is no MPG or HP difference that you can feel when running lower octane. Only high compression engines need high octane. http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aabyb100401.htm
#34 of 751 Re: Price Comparisons [toykick] by ustazzaf Jan 22, 2006 (6:37 pm)
Replying to: toykick (Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm) FOR THOSE DIE HARD TRUCK FANS WHO SAID THEY WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE IF VTEC MADE IT INTO A TRUCK Saying the Ridgeline and it's VTEC "made it in a truck" is like saying the Houston Texans made it in the big leagues. Ya, they have a team, but they have no hope of being a contender. Sure they got accolades when they came out and won the first game, but they quickly dropped back into the bottom of the cespool. Hey, maybe it will be more like the Seahawks and reach greatness 30+ years after being created. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 12:32 pm)
#36 of 751 Re: Price Comparisons [ustazzaf] by thegraduate Jan 23, 2006 (12:32 pm)
Replying to: ustazzaf (Jan 22, 2006 6:37 pm) Honda never intended this truck to sell more than its target of 50,000. I don't think it's a "poser" if it doesen't make claims of even being competitive with the big sellers. I would like to mention that Honda reached their annual sales goals two months early. Seems like Honda knew what they were doing. Sales are sales, regardless it the buyer is a truck guy or not, right?
#37 of 751 Re: Minor Correction [toykick] by thegraduate Jan 23, 2006 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: toykick (Jan 22, 2006 2:48 pm) your accord has more torque then hp? really? see i dont do VTEC #s... if your torque peaks before your hp it doesnt mean you have more torque then hp Who said the Accord to which I am referring has VTEC? Or a V-6? My Accord has 9 more lb-ft of torque than horsepower. My 2006 Accord has 6 more hp than torque lb-ft. Who referred to when torque peaks? I sure didn't. Were you just assuming that I didn't understand how power peaks worked, and since my torque peaks below my horsepower peak that I automatically thought the peak numbers didn't count? I do know that my 1996 has more torque than horsepower, and the VTEC EX models did too. If you want to, we can chat about it in an Accord forum. I think we owe the rest of these guys enough, so lets get back to the trucks. Has anyone here even considered purchasing one of the American brands? Replies to this message: toykick (Jan 23, 2006 1:03 pm) thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:06 pm) toykick (Jan 23, 2006 2:50 pm) and 2 more...
#38 of 751 Re: Minor Correction [thegraduate] by toykick Jan 23, 2006 (1:03 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 12:39 pm) lol 6 more ft.lb of torque.. or 9 doesnt really count. Plus these are family sedans and 4 bangers.. and those 06 hp and torque numbers are from hondas website.. The only new accord which probably has more torque then hp is the hybrid We're talking about trucks... This is hondas biggest production engine right? its in both the pilot and ridgeline... both engines peak high, and have less torque then hp. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:06 pm) toykick (Jan 23, 2006 2:50 pm) thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:57 pm) and 1 more...
#39 of 751 Re: Minor Correction [toykick] by thegraduate Jan 23, 2006 (2:06 pm)
Replying to: toykick (Jan 23, 2006 1:03 pm) If 6 or 9 doesen't really count, then why do you think 2 does (Difference in Ridgeline)? I think I see how you work...nothing "counts" unless it is in your favor. Suddenly, 15 or 20 pounds of torque makes your Tacoma a ton better than the Ridgeline, yet, 10 doesen't count? It "doesen't count" that the numbers are lower on Toyota's vehicles when run without premium? I'm just going by facts here, fella. Actually, the Hybrid has more horsepower than torque, does that count? It probably does, because saying it doesen't won't really help your case much. and those 06 hp and torque numbers are from hondas website ok??? I'm afraid I miss your point here. Anyway, I'm outta here for the day... Have a good one. Replies to this message: toykick (Jan 23, 2006 2:50 pm) thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:57 pm) toykick (Jan 23, 2006 3:00 pm)
#40 of 751 Re: Minor Correction [thegraduate] by toykick Jan 23, 2006 (2:50 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:06 pm) i'm talking about trucks... not sedans... the Accord your talking about has about 130hp with vtec and under 140 ft.lb of torque... again your comparing a 4 banger engine... honda has that same engine tuned with more hp and less torque with a higher compression ratio... again most of hondas engines have more torque then hp. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2006 2:57 pm) toykick (Jan 23, 2006 3:00 pm)